Question:
Who gets to keep the ring in a broken engagement?
ladybug1006
2008-07-29 12:48:37 UTC
Okay, in a broken engagement where the girl breaks up with the guy because he was caught with another woman, after he proposed, who legally gets to keep the ring?

I am not asking opinion. I need the legal answer.
Sixteen answers:
jsmack19
2008-07-29 12:58:36 UTC
It depends.

If the ring was given in anticipation of marriage, in a contractual sense, as in, I give you this ring as consideration, will you marry (doesn't have to actually be said), or a gift.



If it was a gift, then she keeps it.

If it was consideration then he should get it back.



EDIT: I think the lawyer down there hasn't taken a CLE class in a few generations.
anonymous
2016-04-04 05:01:20 UTC
Under the law, the engagement ring is generally treated as a gift. The elements of a legal gift are: (1) the gift-giver's intent to give the item as a gift; (2) the gift-giver's delivery of the gift to the recipient; and (3) the recipient's acceptance of the gift. Gifts, of course, generally become the property of the recipient. However... The majority of courts consider an engagement ring to be a "conditional gift." A conditional gift is one in which some future event must occur in order to finalize the gift. In most cases, courts consider the wedding itself to be the future event that must occur in order to finalize the gift of the engagement ring. If the wedding does not take place, if the engagement is broken, the gift does not get finalized, and thus the ring reverts back to the gift-giver. In other words, the ring must be returned. Recipients often argue that the ring was given as a gift not in contemplation of marriage, but as something else, such as a token of love and affection, or as a memento of a romantic trip to the Caribbean. Others argue that the condition of the gift was not the wedding itself but the acceptance of the proposal. These arguments usually fail. Courts are in disagreement as to whether "fault" should be taken into consideration when deciding who gets to keep the engagement ring. The majority of courts apply what is commonly referred to as the "fault-based rule." Simply stated, if the man broke the engagement, the woman keeps the ring; if the woman called off the wedding, she must return the ring. While at first glance this may seem fair, if you delve deeper, the logic does not always work. What if, for instance, the woman's mother is actually the indirect cause of the break-up, though it is the man who officially calls off the ceremony? The courts simply cannot be asked to determine which grounds for breaking an engagement should be considered fault and which are justified. Thus, there is a trend toward a "no-fault" approach. Simply stated, at the end of an engagement, the ring reverts to the gift-giver regardless of fault. In other words, she has to return the ring no matter what. New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Kansas, and Iowa all currently apply the no-fault approach. I had a friend whose fiance broke off the engagement two weeks before the wedding! They ended up in court over the ring. My friend ended up winning the ring in the lawsuit, actually her parents did, to compensate for all of the wedding expenses (deposit for caterer, flowers, invitations that were already sent out, reception hall deposit, wedding dress & veil, etc.) paid out by them that were non-refundable. Many people ask why a woman would want to keep the ring. Well, that's a perfect example of why!
carmeliasue
2008-07-29 12:53:48 UTC
The man gets the ring. The ring is given on the condition of marriage. If the marriage does NOT happen, regardless of why, the man is legally entitled to the ring back. Think of it like a contract and the ring is the collateral. If you break the contract the collateral is forfeited, and the reason the contract is broken is unimportant and does NOT matter, with a engagement ring it is the same thing.



IF any of the following apply the woman MAY have a legal stand for keeping the ring.

1. She helped pay for it and can prove that.

2. That it was given to her on a occasion to where she can prove it was given as a gift and NOT as a engagement ring.
Katy M
2008-07-29 13:30:10 UTC
If the girl breaks up with the guy or it is mutual, the guy gets the ring back. The ring was given with the promise of marriage and since the marriage is not going to happen, the contract has been broken and the man gets the ring back. If the man breaks the engagement, the woman gets to keep the ring, as it is the man who breached.
Chris
2008-07-29 12:53:53 UTC
It depends on a number of factors and the way the parties argue before a judge. It also depends on the state in which the case is held.



The man would likely argue that the woman accepted the ring and he accepted her promise to marry him (thus forming a contract). Since the woman decided not to get married, the man would claim a material breach and would insist on getting the ring back.



The woman would argue that it was a gift (and thus not returnable). This argument would be better if the ring was given to her on a holiday/birthday (because it would reinforce the belief that it was a gift).



Generally speaking, no marriage means that you need to return the ring.



BTW, Larry's opinion is factually wrong. Read the link below.
mckenziecalhoun
2008-07-29 12:59:29 UTC
Legally, it is a gift, and belongs to the receiver.

However, traditionally the acceptance of the ring is a promise to marry, and breaking that promise means the return of the ring.



A woman who doesn't return the ring has traditionally (and with good reason) been considered of low ethics and poor manners. If the women didn't return the ring, I'd have to say the man got off light.



Because it is technically a promise, a legal case could be made that the ring was part of a business deal and if HE broke the promise, you get the ring, if YOU broke the deal, he gets the ring.
The Arbiter of common sense
2008-07-29 12:59:04 UTC
Using the legal concept of a contract, if one party (her) breaks an agreement (to get married), then she cannot keep any material benefit from the contract (the ring). Note that her reasons for breaking the agreement are irrelevent.



However, these things hardly ever go to court, so there really isn't that much case law to support this, and in some cases courts have accepted the 'gift' argument.



Now if he had broken off, the ring would have been more clearly hers, as liquidated damages.
MrKnowItAll
2008-07-29 12:58:42 UTC
She does - and she can sue the guy for all sorts of stuff too. Whoever is at fault for creating the disruption that causes the engagement to be called off is the one "legally" liable for everything. However this can backfire if it goes to court and if he gets a sleazy lawyer. So she needs to get a top notch lawyer on her side as well, just in case.
Jazz
2008-07-29 13:17:49 UTC
If the lady breaks the engagement the ethical thing to do would be to return the ring - In fact it's the law - If the gentlemen breaks it, you keep it unless he has just cause like catching you in bed with his homey...................
Larry62
2008-07-29 12:59:12 UTC
From a lawyer. The ring was a legal gift and it belongs to the person who accepted the gift. All of you non-lawyers are wrong, again.
redbluffgirl
2008-07-29 13:02:47 UTC
Caught with another woman...isn't that a breach of promise? I would think that she could keep the ring.
kleighs mommy
2008-07-29 12:55:31 UTC
the ring is the mans return it



the judge always awards the man the ring as he was the purchaser
anonymous
2008-07-29 12:52:23 UTC
Uh, he gave the ring to her, so I am assuming it is hers to keep.
MomOfAiden-07
2008-07-29 12:59:05 UTC
actually ive been through this. since the woman broke it off HE GETS THE RING. if he would have broke it off, regardless to the fact that he bought it, she would get to keep it.
trixieb
2008-07-29 12:54:21 UTC
She does - it was a gift! Unless she agrees to give it back it is hers.
partly cloudy
2008-07-29 13:15:19 UTC
Darlin', if it's on your finger, it's your ring.


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