Did Kenya ever issue any birth certificates as the Dominion of Kenya during its first year of independence?

Question

I ask because lawyer Orly Taitz has a certified copy of Barack Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate but this document was issued February 17, 1964 from the Republic of Kenya. Many pro-Obama blogs are immediately jumping to the conclusion that this document is a forgery because Kenya’s independence day from British rule was on December 12, 1963 however, the country did not officially declare itself a republic until December 12, 1964. A British Dominion is still under British rule, the first year of Kenya’s independence I believe was technically free of British rule and I can find nowhere in the history of this country that Kenya was ever categorized as a Dominion. Kenya went from being a British colony to freedom; I find no historical reference that between December 12, 1963 and December 11, 1963 Kenya was a British Dominion! So going back to my question, in the historical records did Kenya ever issue birth certificates as the Dominion of Kenya during its first year of independence?

Answer 1

Was Kenya ever a British Dominion? Answer -- YES.



From the official Parliament of Kenya web site:



The interim period of Internal Self-government, did not witness any major constitutional changes. The constitutional provisions finalized in February, 1963 remained virtually the same. At midnight on December 11, 1963 , Kenya regained Independence from the United Kingdom.



Kenya remained a dominion within the British Commonwealth , with a Governor-General representing Her Majesty locally and a Government headed by a Prime Minister. Mzee Jomo Kenyatta, leader of the majority party in Parliament, became the first Prime Minister, heading a cabinet of fifteen Ministers and thirteen Parliamentary Secretaries. The late Ronald Gideon Ngala, leader of K.A.D.U. and Mr. Paul Joseph Ngei, leader of A. P. P. formed a Coalition Opposition under leadership of the former.



The composition to the Legislature and the framework of the Government at Independence remained in place until the first anniversary. Arising from close negotiations between the Government and the Opposition, a merger of all the parties represented in the House, under the Kenya African National Union - K.A.N.U. and under the leadership of Mzee Jomo Kenyatta was concluded and took effect on December 12, 1964 with the voluntary dissolution of the Kenya African Democratic Union - K.A.D.U. and the African Peoples Party - A.P.P. This merger meant an unanticipated de facto one party status. On December 12, 1964 , Kenya declared herself a Sovereign Republic within the Commonwealth. Mzee Kenyatta become the first President, heading a Cabinet of eighteen Ministers.

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From the sound of this, it doesn't seem like in Feb 1964 that it was clear that a Republic was in the works, and extremely unlikely that forms would have been made up with the new name. More likely they would have continued with the old forms as more important things were going on.



Stamps in the Dominion period just said KENYA, Republic of Kenya Stamps were issued Dec 12, 1964.



ADDED: According to Kenya, colonial-era documents were marked "Colony and Protectorate of Kenya", while Republic-era are "Government of Kenya".

Answer 2

My response to (BTW: I'm Larry, this is my 2nd account):



1) C3PO: Great—a high school kid with a smart aleck attitude! Grow the hell up! I not only Yawn back at you but I hate spoiled brats like you! Oh look at me—I’m so smug and superior, yah just wait kid, just you wait until you have to try to earn a living! Employers are going to be looking at your resume and saying ‘YAWN’ to themselves and filing your job applications under ‘G’ for garbage—NEXT!!!



2) Ruth S: It doesn’t matter about Obama Senior because what Orly Taitz has is a standard document that was requested by parents of children who were born in Kenya before Independence Day. Certificates of Kenyan birth were requested by parents after December 12, 1963 so that their children could be legally registered as Kenyan citizens (so that their children could get Kenyan passports for example). My question is does anybody have real proof that Kenya issued birth certificates as a British Dominion during the first year of Independence?



3) Jicarlo H: Duh? Yes—I’m serious otherwise I wouldn’t have posted my question! What the hell does ‘Source: common sense’ mean? Barack Obama didn’t post his Hawaiian short form COLB, a supposedly non-affiliated company called FactCheck.org released it on-line! Uh…yes—I’m waiting for your response; common sense applies here too! If Barack Obama refuses to release his official birth certificate and if no other individuals (and many have tried) have been allowed to see it than how the hell did FactCheck get their document? Also if FactCheck’s document is legal, why not just bring it out to the public or take it to court as proof to any of these birthers’ court attempts to see it?



4) Romare: Reagrding your first point, you’re wrong! I’m quoting directly from Wikipedia’s page on Mombasa: “Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya.” Regarding your second point, you keep repeating Internet Urban Myths such as Kenya being a Dominion! Canada was a British Dominion for many years but I can find no proof whatsoever that Kenya was ever called a Dominion! It went from being a British colony to Independence, it’s no difference than the United States, it was a British colony than it declared its Independence on July 4, 1776 but there was no functioning government until 1789. Between Independence Day and the start of a true functioning government was United States ever labelled a British Dominion? I’m asking for proof! Does anyone have proof that during its first year of Independence was Kenya called a Dominion? I put up my question as a challenge, so far there’s no proof! Finally regarding your insipid attempt at making a joke, this certified copy of registration of birth was issued by Joshua Simon Oduya, Deputy Registrar on February 17, 1964! This certified copy has included the information that was recorded on the original registration of birth and on August 5, 1961 the Registrar who signed the birth certificate was E.F. Lavender!





Holy cow people…my question is simple why did you try to make it more complex than it needs to be? Does anyone have proof that during its first year of Independence, Kenya was called a Dominion? Did Kenya ever issue birth certificates from the Dominion of Kenya?

Answer 3

All I can offer are the relevant arguments (including sources) from each side, and then you can hopefully decide for yourself.



WorldNetDaily commented, "Attorney files motion for authentication of alleged 1960s certificate from Africa." Link: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764



However, prior to the release of a Kenyan birth certificate, FactCheck.org had concluded the "truth about Obama's birth certificate." Link: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html



Due to strong arguments from each side the following transaction was entered by Taitz, Orly on 8/1/2009 at 10:08 PM PDT and filed on 8/1/2009:



Case Name: Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al

Case Number: 8:09-cv-82

Filer: Alan Keyes PhD

Document Number: 34



There is now a motion for rogatory discovery to authenticate Kenyan Birth Certificate of Barack Hussein Obama, which will take place in a U.S. court of law. Link: http://www.obamanotqualified.com/obama-kenyan-birth-certificate-kenya.htm

Answer 4

Here is a copy of the Kenyan birth certificate that Orly Taitz has produced, along with some other information about it. You decide if Barack Obama was born in Hawaii or in Kenya.



http://www.infowars.com/purported_kenyan-obama_birth_certificate_surfaces/

Answer 5

Just three or more "small problems":



1. Mombasa was not in Kenya in 1961. It was in Zanzibar until 1964

2. Kenya was not a Republic in 1961. It was still a British dominion, and all official records said "Dominion of Kenya," not "Republic of Kenya."

3. E. F. Lavender, supposedly the official who signed this, is the name of a popular African detergent.



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Oops--it's a fraud!

http://www.examiner.com/x-4383-Portland-Progressive-Examiner~y2009m8d4-Orly-Taitz-Obama-birth-certificate-fraud

Answer 6

If you go back to 1961 for instance, wasn't Kenya under the protection of the British Empire? Obama Sr can be called a Kenyan AND a Ward under the British Protectorate!!

Answer 7

you can't be serious about this?

Answer 8

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NEXT!