Question:
Double standards for public sector employees (UK)?
Patriot Paul
2009-02-27 03:54:11 UTC
Is it fair that, in the same week that a British nurse was suspended for "offering" to say a prayer for an elderly patient..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7863699.stm

the Police open the door to female Muslim recruits by incorporating the hijab into the uniform?

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news/Police-adopt-uniform-hijab/article-660197-detail/article.html

It wasn't so long ago that a BA employee was suspended for wearing a crucifix. Shouldn't the government make a ruling one way or the other, that applies to all of us, public or private sector...and stick to it?
Nine answers:
2009-02-27 04:04:24 UTC
new labour are the party of double standards. As you rightly say there does seem to be 'preference'.
Confused Hal
2009-02-27 04:55:46 UTC
This nurse and the police isn't double standards at all.



The nurse was pushing her choice of religion onto someone else, the policewomen in this case aren't they are only dressing in accordance to their religion. If a nurse asked if she could pray for me I'd think my time was up and what does she know that I dont. It could be very worrying, although a suspension was harsh and it should have been delt with by a warning,



It would be comparable to the BA instance if indeed BA was a public company which it isn't and hadn't backed down to accommodated the employee.





In the case of BA she wasn't suspended for wearing a crucifix it was for having it on display which breached the rules, BA later backed down and allowed staff to display religious jewellery but Nadia Eweida continued to pursue a claim against religious discrimination which she subsequently lost. She continues to work there with her cross on display and dispensing her Christan beliefs onto others with comments like "there is still time to redeem yourself if you stop being gay" Very christan



For idiot above - Leicester is mainly white, with the second biggest group being Hindu - there are very few Muslims that live there.



Edit - I wouldn't have complained about the nurse either - however and I dont know what the circumstances of the patient was (who only mentioned it in passing to another nurse and didn't put in a complaint) - but I would imagine that under some circumstances with an elderly patient it could be seen as telling someone that their time is up and that is why it was investigated and she was asked not to do it again.



And someone wearing the hijab as part of the uniform is offensive to you how - your not the one being asked to wear it. To me it is no different to seeing a turban.
kiku
2009-02-27 04:06:37 UTC
I believe that upholding any sort of dress etc. which is prohibitive like veil for example, is used to subjugate women. This form of dress enhances the male stereotypical view that women are merely sex objects. It is offensive as it implies that the human male cannot see the person within the body, and are therefore wlling to pounce and take a woman due to her physical attributes at all times. This is a derogatory view on men - it implies that all men are potential rapists and invites sex discrimination. If wearing the veil works and gives women equality - then why are the most unequal societies those who insist on the wearing of the hijab? (EG Middle East - I rest my case)
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Back to the drawing board
2009-02-27 08:37:03 UTC
As an atheist, yes, I would have been personally offended by a nurse's request 'to pray for me'. It against the NHS ethics to not respect the dignity of the patient in all areas and this includes assuming that they have a religious belief. And I would also not be bothered if the lady was wearing a hijab so long as she was doing her job well.
2009-02-27 04:19:40 UTC
You are forgetting the Leicester is not a UK city any more.

In fact we are going to rename it Leicsterstan in order to keep our muslim voters happy
MaryBlue
2009-02-27 04:41:32 UTC
if you study the law closely and what is practised in courts you'll find a lot of seemingly contradictory rulings.

the overall ethos, I believe, is each case is looked at on it's own merit
taxed till i die,and then some.
2009-02-27 03:58:28 UTC
Yes it is time.
Nocturna
2009-02-27 06:07:45 UTC
This is disturbing indeed.


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