Question:
I think drug testing is bullshit, unless you operate or are responsible for heavy machinery. Agree?
josephmarzen
2006-10-03 10:41:43 UTC
Why is it anyone elses business? Studies have proven time and time again that drug testing is useless for determining preformance.
27 answers:
2006-10-03 10:45:05 UTC
Hey - welcome to the twenty-first century!



We are in the age of the new prohibition. You are EVIL if you take drugs - don't you know that? EVIL!!!!



FP
2006-10-03 10:54:40 UTC
I agree mostly. The purpose of drug testing other than pre employment, is so that when someone gets hurt on the job and comes up dirty the company is not liable and can fire the person. Maybe they should test people for being tired or perhaps overworked and stressed too that way they could get out of even more Workman's comp cases. I think you should be tested with a Breathalyzer to see if you are drunk but not drug tested. That is bullshit. If you are drunk on the job you should loose your job, and you really shouldn't be getting high at work. But there is no test to see when you got high only that you had gotten high at some point within the last month or so. It is also a means to divide and conquer the populace. But lets not get into that.
Gem
2006-10-03 10:52:47 UTC
I absolutely agree with you! There has been no proven compelling reason for across the board drug testing, no cost savings, no better productivity, nothing. It is just a phallacy that the drug testing labs continue to propagate across our society.



Not to mention that there is no test to find out about current use of marijuana. The THC stays in your blood (fat cells I think) for up to a month so what are they testing for? That you ran into a college buddy and managed to score a joint and then smoked it a month ago? Come on!



On the other side of the coin, I've needed a job and went through drug testing 3 times. I have not used heavy drugs for many, many years, but used to be a regular pot smoker and I managed to pass all 3 of them. Also, I know that the residue from drugs such as cocaine, heroin and meth only stay in your system a few days, so if you fail because you are snorting on the way to your test, the the test has worked, because it proves you are stupid!



And finally, I have always been an outstanding employee that rarely, if ever, calls in sick, works twice as hard as others and I am professional in every way I represent my employer. Kinda blows the theory that drug users cost the company money, doesn't it?
pknutson_sws
2006-10-03 10:51:21 UTC
No, it's not an indication of performance but it is of liability. As a business owner, I see employees who use drugs have more frequent absences, illnesses and tardiness. Also, those who may come to work under the influence are a safety risk to other employees and a detriment to productivity.



I have fired more than a few people who were not tested before applying for work, but were subject to tests because of their on the job behavior and performance. If these people were not hired in the first place, it would have saved the company a lot of money in administrative and productivity expense.
2006-10-03 10:48:49 UTC
i can see from both sides.



FOR: it makes sense that an employer would not want to hire someone who is an alcoholic, becasue if they get drunk off their *** one night, and have to be at work at 8am the next day, how will they perform? if they even come to work?



AGAINST: why is it their business? they dont have to assume that just because a person does drugs that they are not a hard worker or that they are unreliable.



i was about to try drugs for the first time, and the day before i got a call from target saying that i was hired, and needed to take a drug test. i had put in my application almost a month ago so i figured they didnt want me, so i said to hell with it and was gonna do it. but i didnt and i got hired. i dont think it should be mandatory, only if there is a suspicion of it, or if like you said, you are operating machinery or something.
Chris J
2006-10-03 10:48:54 UTC
I agree. The only caveat is that companies are expected to pay for health benefits and the use of drugs (as well as alcohol, prescription drugs and smoking) effect your overall health. This gives a company a personal interest in your health which is what they can use to justify testing. If a company isn't paying your health benefits, then they should judge you completely by the quality of the job you do. If your a pothead and a better worker than someone who isn't a pothead, why should drug use matter?
sarge927
2006-10-03 10:47:06 UTC
There's this concept called INTEGRITY, which means a heck of a lot more to a prospective employer than your ability to operate a vehicle or heavy machinery. If you can't be trusted to obey the laws of the land concerning drugs -- laws that were made with YOUR safety as well as the safety of others around you in mind -- can you really be trusted to do a good job?
ItsJustMe
2006-10-03 10:44:20 UTC
I do not agree. Any time someone is making decisions that affect a company, its employees or its clients, it is essential that they have a clear head. Therefore, drug testing is acceptable to protect the company and its assets.



A person always has the option to refuse a drug test and not be employed at that place. So if people don't like it, they should find companies that do not do drug testing.
I'dlike2know
2006-10-03 10:50:43 UTC
I have to disagree with you. If you had a company, you probably would want your employees to be in all their possible 5 senses. You would expect that they be ready to do their jobs, and giving you their 100% or more and not give you a cruddy performance. There will be times that they might not put their best efforts, but hopefully it is because of valid reasons. You probably would want to hire people that will take their job seriously that don't go overboard in alcohol or overdose of illegal drugs. To me, it's just a way to make sure the person you're hiring is of good and moral character and will represent your company in an excellent way...hopefully. I hope my answer helps you out. Take care!
Sandi A
2006-10-03 10:54:21 UTC
I think we need a drug free america. We do drug screening on ALL new employees and if it comes back positive, we don't hire them plain and simple. I don't care what job you have within the company. Those that do drugs are less responsible, they show up late, call in sick, leave early, steal for drugs. Give me a break. Let me guess, you got turned down for a job because you couldn't pass the drug test, did you forget to study?
2006-10-03 10:45:20 UTC
I'd like to see your sources on this one. So it would be okay for say a cop to be high, or a teacher, a bus driver, a taxi driver, the guy working a press, the person on the high power electrical lines? There are thousands of jobs that could put a life in jeopardy if the person doing the task in on drugs.
breeze1
2006-10-03 11:03:27 UTC
Drug testing screens for illegal drugs, I can take a soma, lortab and a xanax and pass a drug test because I have a prescription. I would think that someone who smoked a joing a month ago would be more clearheaded than someone on prescription meds.
tiff
2006-10-03 10:55:19 UTC
absouletly not!!!!!!!!



do you know how many drug heads i deal with with daily- im an emt



it bull crap



everyone should be tested

do you want your childrens school teacher on drugs?

how about your doctor?

how about the guy behind you in traffic rush hour?????



if it were enforced that all employees be drug tested i believe usage would decrease and the world would be safer



you sound like you may have a drug problem seeing how you dont want to get caught maybe...........



grow up



learn how to live in reality without the drugs
2006-10-03 10:53:02 UTC
there is also a moral standard here.



doing drugs is generally considered immoral, and is definitely considered illegal. companies dont want to hire people who they feel are immoral, and have no problem breaking the law. if you're not afraid to illegally obtain and use drugs, why would you be afraid of stealing from them?



note, i dont AGREE with or condone this mindset, but it's simply the truth.



also, because of the stereotypes that have been created mainly due to hard-drug addicts, ie: crackheads, speed freaks, h-fiends, anyone who uses drugs to any degree is usually typed as a "druggie," meaning you're unreliable, and only want a job so you can earn a check to get you your next fix.



basically, drugs have a negative stigma, and employers dont want that kind of person.
awesome
2006-10-03 10:48:09 UTC
if a person is on drugs nine times out of ten, they're not going to stay employed long at all, so its a waste of time hiring him



they're slackers and i don't want to have to do more then what im supposed to just because they stayed up night from their habit



if they do illegal drugs then their criminals to me



anyone under the influence of drugs are liable to do anything at any even time



some of them will end up stealing from eympoyees or the employer
scornedgypsy
2006-10-03 10:59:36 UTC
whether you like(use) or dislike(quit use of) drugs, no one can pretend that medication, legal or illegal, has no side effects. if the known/desired effects did not alter the user, he/she would not use them. Work is work, play is play. I feel that drug testing should be used to give the consumers/employers what they are paying for. According to your train of thought, drinking booze/beer on the job should be OK too, I don't think so.
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2016-03-27 07:26:40 UTC
India had a near perfect match after Australia's first innings batting,i thought it was good first innings from Aussies but India scored so fast thanks to Dhawan and co and Australia's second innings capitulation that happened so quickly on the last day cannot be explained even by Ian Chappell.Batting for India clicked so well in this series,they had a near perfect match.Australia should've drawn this match but they ended up losing on the last day thanks to some poor batting in second innings.
2006-10-03 10:48:08 UTC
Disagree, but only adding that every stinking rotten politician, lawyer, judge, and member of the media be subjected to random alcohol and drug screens just like the rest of us, and upon detection, it should call for their immediate resignation.
Sam
2006-10-03 10:51:53 UTC
Which statistics are you referring to?

The statistics actually show that employees who abuse drugs are costing the employers twice as much on medical and workman comp claims as drug-free workers. Not to mention time loss due to "no show" at work!
sobefobik
2006-10-03 10:45:25 UTC
No I don't agree and the reason they test is because they don't want their employees using illegal substances whether it affects their performance or not. That could really give their business a bad reputation.
2006-10-03 13:46:35 UTC
if you think drug testing is useless for determining performance, why still have it for those operating heavy machinery? it won' t affect their performance either, right? duhhhhhhhhh!
The Ghost of Azzurri Man
2006-10-03 10:54:57 UTC
if youre taking drugs then their drug-testing crap might not be a bull-shiit so welcome to hellish 21 century ..dont cry...just cheat the drug tests and pass then shut them up and let you make more money for your supporting your habit. good luck to you if youre operating heavy machiery or HOPEFULLY NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT a nuclear power plant withing 200 miles of my home damn it.
?
2006-10-03 10:44:12 UTC
Unless of course your drug addicted employee needs to steal for his next high...............sorry, hiring druggies is too risky for most businesses. I do not agree.
2006-10-03 10:50:41 UTC
I'm not hiring you to do anything. I don't want legal liability if you do something untoward.



Sorry. Get clean.
?
2006-10-03 10:47:46 UTC
Would you want your Doctor..wasted as he worked on you..or loved ones?
biggggies
2006-10-03 10:50:06 UTC
i agree
2006-10-03 10:49:06 UTC
you mean for a job??

if the people you work for dont want you to be a druggie...they have every right to test you DUH


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