I was asked for ID in Sainsbury's and they wrote something in a log book?

Question

I was asked to prove my age, then they took my ID card and copied something down from it into a log book where it looked as if they had done it to other people too. What was this and why did they do it?

Answer 1

Most folks are on the right lines: It is not actually a strict legal requirement but a recommended way of the premises/ staff showing they are acting responsibly when age restricted products are sold to people whose age might be an issue and lead to a prosecution if they get it wrong. eg. knives, videos, glue, tobacco & mainly alcohol.

The staff will write in brief details to demonstrate they acted with 'due diligence', ie. they tried to ensure the law was being complied with. For example as a starting point in a prosecution for selling alcohol to an under 18yr old the prosecution only has to prove two points, 1) that it was alcohol and 2) the purchaser was under 18yr.

At that stage if the seller can demonstrate either they honestly believed the person was over 18yr or they were suspicious and asked for, and were shown apparently valid over 18yr ID they will not be found guilty.

The penalties inc. up to £1000 fine for under 18yr and up to £5000 for over 18yr olds committing under age alcohol sales, plus loss of other licences either temp or permanently.

Answer 2

Dear Comair, Writing false hours into your logbook is basically falsifying a document. You probably would not get caught unless you did it often and copiously. I'm not sure if the FAA would yank a rating unless the fake hours recorded were vital for a particular rating. The way these are caught is fairly simple. It's an audit. I do not know a pilot who has been audited, but the process is just comparing your log book against the logs of the companies renting you aircraft, or, if you own your plane, checking the log against the engine time to see if they compare. It would be a time consuming process for either the FAA or the airline and would probably not be initiated unless your flying skills were a gross mismatch against your stated time in grade/type or something else made an investigator smell a bad fish. Tiger Toy

Answer 3

when ever someone buys alcohol and the server asks for ID then by law they have to write it down in a log book.. to prove they had challenged the buyer for proof of age



its to protect the person who served you and the store

because if they do sell to an under aged person the server would be fined £5000 and get a criminal record and could even end up in prison and the Sainsburys store would also be fined a big fee



they dont take your name but they do write the time it happened and jot down your description.. so that if someone did come back on your behalf and claimed that the seller didnt ask for ID, then they have the proof that in fact they did.. and everyone escapes prison.

Answer 4

What it may well have been is them recording that you had proved your age, but then they should have given you the code number that goes with your identity.

I believe you should also have been shown a copy of this recording, plus you have every right to ask how this information is going to be stored, who is going to have access to it etc.

They may well be in breach of the data protection act if this is not done and stored correctly. You could always ask at the Citizen's Advice Bureau or council offices regarding your rights and if the store has broke them.

Hope this helps, mike t

Answer 5

Retailers are fined if they sell alcohol or cigarettes and possibly also knives and glue to under aged persons.They want to be seen to be enforcing these various rules so they keep a register of the checks they make.The register records ID checks so that they can demonstrate compliance if the Police or Trading Standards come to check.The register records ID checks and refusals to sell alcohol etc. where the ID is unsatisfactory.All the big stores do it.

Answer 6

Sainsbury's are really weird sometimes. I remember I bought some Rennie tablets (for heartburn) there once and they checked my age for that! Didn't have to provide ID (it's obvious I am over 18) but the cashier did look at me and say "yes you're over 18" before ringing it up.

Answer 7

Depends what you were trying to buy, which you conveniently left out.



I believe the log book is used in order to prevent false accusations of harassment or targeting if a customer was to bring such an accusation the supermarket can and will bring these log books to bear and prove that they were not just targeting you.

Answer 8

It could be the reference number or some other detail that they might keep in case they have to prove they saw your ID.



I can understand why they would do this, of course it's too late now but I would suggest that you ask them what details they are taking and how they are going to store them.



It is very important to keep your personal details confidential, and only give them out when you know that they will be treated as such.

Answer 9

The book is simply demonstration that the policy of "proof of age" is being used. If I was a boss man there I would use the contents of the book to check that my staff were indeed checking ID.



xxFJ

Answer 10

Perhaps they are checking for fakes? Keeping a log of a name and number ensurse no copying of that card?

I'm sure if you asked them politely they'd tell you.

Answer 11

when i used to work at a supermarket it was done just to keep themselves right.something to do with legal reasons.it was done if something was refused eg alcohol etc.i dont know why they would take details and i would say they shouldnt have.were you refused? that would be the reason if you were served then ask why and what for.

Answer 12

They probably just wrote your DOB down. Walmart has started doing this when you buy beer or cigarettes

Answer 13

Covering their @rses.

Were you buying alcohol/cigarettes?

Answer 14

You have a right to ask, so next time ,ASK