Question:
how many pple really get all their victims rights?
jennah_z
2007-11-30 06:37:53 UTC
MY NAME IS JENNAH. I WAS RAPED BY MY BIOLOGICAL FATHER, NORMAN, WHEN I
WAS 18YRS OLD. I AM NOT GOING INTO DETAILS AS I BELIEVE THEY ARE
UNNECESSARY AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT
jennah_z@yahoo. com.
HE WAS CONVICTED OF 2ND DEGREE SEXUAL ASSAULT OF A MINOR AND INCEST.... I
HAVE CALLED THE PRISON HE IS IN 2 TIMES. I WANT TO CONFRONT MY FATHER,
TALK TO HIM ABOUT THINGS. IN THE "VICTIMS RIGHTS" I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO.
THE FIRST TIME I CALLED THE PERSON (A WOMAN) I TALKED TO TREATED ME
LIKE THE BAD GUY! I FELT AS IF I WAS DOING WRONG TRYING TO GET MEDICAL
INFORMATION FOR MY HEALTH. WHEN I ASKED IF I WOULD BE ABLE TO TALK TO
MY FATHER SHE TOLD ME IT WOULDN'T BE GOOD FOR ME. HOW DOES SHE KNOW
WHAT I NEED? I HAD NEVER MET HER. I WANT CLOSURE. THAT TOTALLY UPSET ME.
THEY WERE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT HIS REHABILITATION. ....WHAT THE HELL?
SHOULDN'T THEY BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE VICTIM FIRST? THESE RAPISTS HURT
OTHERS, POSSIBLY MAKING THEIR LIFE HELL FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
MAKING THEM LIVE WITH FEARS, AND NIGHTMARES. I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD
COME FIRST! I THINK THE VICTIM SHOULD.
THE SECOND TIME I PHONED THE PRISON I GOT A VOICE MAIL PRESSED SO I
PRESSED 0 FOR AN EMERGENCY ,THEY THEN TRANSFERRED ME TO ANOTHER VOICE
MAIL. I AGAIN PRESSED 0 (FOR AN EMERGENCY) ONE MORE TIME AND I WAS
TRANSFERRED TO A GUARD HE ASKED IF IT WAS IMPORTANT, I SAID YES, HE
TOLD ME HE WOULD GET SOMEONE FOR ME IMMEDIATELY. AND I WAITED ON HOLD
FOR ABOUT 5 MINUTES AND THEN AGAIN GOT VOICE MAIL. I LEFT A MESSAGE
ONCE AGAIN FOR THEM TO CALL ME.
THEN I CALLED THE VINE SYSTEM TALKED TO A PERSON AND FOUND OUT HE
COMES UP FOR PAROLE IN OCTOBER OF 08. THE VICTIM OFFENDER DIALOG WAS
REFERRED TO A BARB IN JANUARY 2007 AND NO ONE EVER CONTACTED ME AFTER
THAT. THEY NOW PROMISE THAT I WILL HEAR FROM THEM IN A WEEK OR SO.
VICTIMS RIGHTS NEED TO BE IN FORCED AND THEY NEED TO HAVE RESTITUTION
NO MATTER WHAT THE CRIME. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO REOPEN RESTITUTION IF
A NEW PROBLEM STARTS UP OR SOMETHING HAPPENS BECAUSE OF THE CRIME
LATER IN LIFE.
BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PHYSICAL DAMAGE TO ME OR MY BELONGINGS I DON'T
GET ANY RESTITUTION.
I WILL BE ON MEDICATION ALL OF MY LIFE, I AM DISABLED BECAUSE OF THIS,
I HAVE TO SEE DOCTORS, COUNCILORS AND PAY FOR GAS TO GET TO THEM.
THIS IS FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
I ALSO STRUGGLE RAISING MY ELDEST DAUGHTER BECAUSE OF MY DISORDERS.
I GOT INVOLVED IN DRUGS TO MASK MY FEELINGS RIGHT AFTER THIS HAPPENED
AND LOST ALL MY CHILDREN. MY TWO BABY'S ALLISSANDRA LEELYNN BORN JUNE
28 LIVED IN MILWAUKEE THE LAST I KNEW(05). SERENITY MARIE BORN 02-07
LIVES IN NORTHERN WISCONSIN (06). I AM NOT ALLOWED TO SEE MY
DAUGHTERS. I HAVE BEEN CLEAN FOR 3YEARS NOW. HOW CAN YOU PUT
RESTITUTION ON LIVES LIKE THAT? I DID GET MY ELDEST TIFFANY DOB 12-3
BACK AND NOW I HAVE PRIMARY PHYSICAL PLACEMENT OF HER. I COULD TAKE
CARE OF MY CHILDREN NOW. BUT ITS TOO LATE. I KNOW THIS IS PARTLY MY
FAULT BUT IT IS PARTLY HIS.
I CANT HAVE ANYMORE CHILDREN WITHOUT IVF AND THATS 11600. I DON'T HAVE
THAT MONEY I AM DISABLED AND MY HUSBAND WORKS IN A FACTORY. INSURANCE
DOESN'T COVER IT. I GOT MY TUBES TIED BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING
ANOTHER CHILD INTO A WORLD LIKE THIS. NOW I WANT TO SO THEY CAN HELP
CHANGE IT BUT IT IS TOO LATE.
THIS IS THE LETTER I AM SENDING OUT TO THE PRISON AND WHO EVER WILL
LISTEN. MAYBE IF WE ALL GET TOGETHER WE CAN GET THIS FIXED. I DON'T
WANT ANOTHER GIRL TO GO THROUGH WHAT I DID.
AT THE BOTTOM IS A LIST OF VICTIMS RIGHTS THAT I FOUND ON THE
WISCONSIN SEX OFFENDERS LIST. WISH THEY WORKED.


To Whom it May Concern;
11/29/07
I am writing in regards to Norman Wilson DOC ID#: 00375807.
My name is Jenifer and I am the victim of the crime, and his
daughter, that he is currently serving time in Oshkosh Correctional
Institution for.
There are many different things that I need to say in this letter
so that you fully understand the impact this has had and still has on
me and my family.
But first, I need to request some form of closure in this matter
for me so that I am able to finally move on. I have requested this by
pone and through the V.I.N.E. (VICTIM )It has been almost 9 years.
This is the closure that I need very badly. My father has Hep C and is
dieing. Before he dies I need to be able to speak with him so that i
can move on. I do not care if it is a phone call, in a visit setting,
or however else you could imagine to arrange this meeting. I really
need to try to make him understand that he is still my father and I
love him but at the same time I hurt and cannot forgive him. I need to
tell him how this is effecting my family, my husband and daughter, and
myself. I NEED to ask him "why". The answers he gives matters and at
the same time doesn't matter to me at all. I just need an answer. I
need to be able to ask. I would write him but writing would only give
him time to think about his responses and fake emotion. I also don't
believe that option will be a good closure to me. I also think he
would be able to lie (better if he is or would lie). Hearing him or
seeing him will tell me his emotions on the matter. I need to see if I
can find at least some form of forgiveness for him so that I can
better my life, or realize I have gotten answers and they did not help
and then I can move on that way. I NEED this for MY well-being. It in
no way can be anymore harmful to me then what is has been without me
getting to say and ask what I need to. He has served half his sentence
now. I still have only begun mine.
I guess to understand what I go through I would like to explain my
problems. I sleep about 4 hours a night, if that, still total. I have
nightmares almost every night about what happened. I am on medication
that allows me to sleep with out as many nightmares and sleep that
long. I am afraid of people, I have problems with trust, I am
agoraphobic (fear of leaving a safe place). I panic if I cant handle a
situation (which can be as simple as,and has been, shopping), or over
nothing at all. I have flashbacks-I see him, smell him. breath him.
hear him-all as if it was happening again. No matter what else I have
tried this still happens. I have been on medications and still take
them, I see a councilor and a therapist and have since 1999. I go to
support meetings. None of these things gives me the answers I need.
I have spoken to my father but never really about what happened,
he said he was sorry right after he got into the prision system, other
then that it has been a lot of small talk---weather, his job, and his
Hep C. The letters have helped me deal a little better with the
extreme, horrible, hatred I used to have, now its a more tolerable
hate. I just want these things better. I know they will never go away
totally.
Incest and rape go back in my family as far as I can find (which
is only my grandparents as I no longer talk to that side of my family
because they believe that my father was with in his rights.) My
grandfather started mentioning having sex with me along with my father
the next time he came up. I thank the lord that I was able to tell on
my father, which was hard, before that happened. I believe this would
have happened to everyone in my family if I would not have stopped it
including my daughter. It happened to my older step-sisters and some
friends. I stopped the rapes before it continued to my little sister
or my daughter. Now I need my closure also.
I do not care if he sees the prision walls until he is dead or is
released tomorrow as long as I have my chance to be better first.

Respectfully

Jenifer Lyon

"It has been said that something that is as small as a flutter of a
butterfly's wings can ultimately cause a typhoon halfway
around the world." chaos theory
If this is true, then you must ask yourself... what can or have you
cause(d)? jennah

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Three answers:
qb
2007-11-30 07:18:44 UTC
that is horrible. i am so sorry for your situation. i think now that he's in prison, he probably has the legal right to refuse visitors. i believe you have to try to convince him to talk to you. i don't think you can force it. this is the type of thing sometimes called victim impact statement where judges listen to victims of crimes PRIOR to sentencing and it's generally done in front of the convicted criminal. the victim impact statement they discuss here is apparently only to a parol officer. good luck sweetheart...
little78lucky
2007-11-30 15:20:03 UTC
i think he meant TLTR (too long to read)

any ways i only read a little bit of that cause it is way to much to read for a question

but, are you working with a victim's right advocate..if you feel you are not getting all your rights they will help you get them
wizjp
2007-11-30 14:59:04 UTC
TLDR.



Wow.


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