Question:
Are you tired of Welfare Fraud? Want to Comment?
2008-06-17 15:14:48 UTC
Our help giving systems, welfare, disability, and others have many problems. Many greedy, lazy, able-bodied people are living off the upstanding, law abiding, working class people. Welfare should be limited to one year, period, and then only for dire emergencies. Disability should not be for those who want something for nothing. While there are many legitimate cases, some of which are not recognized, others are living off the land.

It concerns me that the welfare system is a way of life instead of an emergency aid and too many have little concern. Some say, just let it ride. Who knows, some of those may be the riders. If more people cared, it might help to clean the system up. Welfare should be an emergency aid and not a life style, generation, after generation. The main thing is go vote in November for the Welfare of the USA.

It takes more people like you and me to help get the cleaning done. We need to put working people behind these 'gift giving’ desks and put the current despicable maggots out looking for jobs. Starting with the lowest paying to the highest elected.

In another question that prompted this writing, a former Welfare recipient, after seven years, gained her self-respect, became responsible, and paid all monies back into the system and echoed to the public how people are abusing the system.

If you know of any fraudulent cases, do us all a favor and report them. If you do report these cases, do it discreetly, without giving your name. Until we clean the system, you would be in the middle of fire.

I reported high official professional names along with young people involved in fraudulent activities. After the authorities got the information, they closed the door in my face and left me alone with wolfs.
Thirteen answers:
Dondi
2008-06-17 16:08:32 UTC
I agree, and I do. and for bookish, she obviously has no idea what she is babbling about. I personally have seen 6 people jailed that had multiple aliases and was cheating the taxpayers. I sat on a jury at one trial, the lady had over 20 aliases, and drove a Bentley and lived in a mansion in BelAire. That was NO myth, she got 25 years for it, and lost everything. These people deserve to be reported, they are abusing a faulty system to the point that those who really need it have a difficult time.
xenypoo
2008-06-17 16:41:15 UTC
It is not true that the people on the system, of Health and Human Services (welfare), are not causing any problems, or that they are not part of the problem, as said by another answerer. People are abusing the system, but the system workers also abuse it, by not being responsible in checking up on the individual users.



I had welfare for 2 years, and paid it all back. It took time, it was hard, but it was the right thing to do. My worker told me it wasn't necessary to do so, as soon as I could, but my morals obligated me to do so immediately!



America never owed me! I owe them, for my freedom, my safety, and the support I needed after my divorce.



American taxpayers gave that to me, now I am a self-reliant Mother, but still give citizens my gratitude.



I wish all individuals would not see the Welfare System as a Right, but rather, as a help, until they are able to get back on their feet.



America is about Liberty, Justice, Love, God, and Freedom, not take what you can get off the backs of people, and continue to do it. That is more like a thief, not a borrower.



God Bless America, and thank you!
John D.
2008-06-17 16:36:03 UTC
Was going to write something, but Bob H. beat me to it. It is sad when there are people that argueably need this service. And there are people scamming the government and their fellow Americans.
laura_bean08
2008-06-17 18:41:07 UTC
I agree, I have medication that costs 300 a bottle without insurance, my job is cutting their insurance. So I call the social security place to see if they can help even a little until I can find another job with insurance. (because as everyone knows you have to have a job thirty days before they will even mention insurance) Anyway, the lady tells me I have to be 18 with children or 65 and ready to retire before they can help me because they have to label me as dissabled. I wish the system actually worked to help the people that are legit, and need the help, thank you for putting this information out there. You go girl!
Bee Bee
2008-06-17 17:25:10 UTC
Yes and it heartbreaking when you know some one in your family is using and abusing and lying to you that what they are doing is right. i had this to happen to me last week. I give the the chance to report themselves or I will have to do it. they are calling my bluff, and will never speak to me again if I do. but to me that's plain out Stealing. these two are educated and can work. they are skilled on very good jobs.So they choose to live like this . and it's wrong. although I will be the loser as I want see my grand babies. that's my punishment.

But I don't not want my grand children growing to be repeaters. and this is all they know right now. they have been on this program for 3 years, and their standard of living has gone down each year. .and it's shame. I willing to lose them if it will force their parent out to work and give them a better life. My hearts broke. but that's just the price I am willing to pay for my Grand babies.
Southern Lady Anita
2008-06-17 17:24:46 UTC
Great question and information! Yes, I believe that the system is being misused by many including those that have their hands in running it.



I agree that something needs to be done about it. Granted, there are many who need this assistance and should be helped.



I believe that they should be drug tested and closely watched to make sure they are using it for the right reasons. Also, I believe there should be a program to get these people off the system as quickly as possible. A work program would be great.



I totally respect the person who paid back the monies she received after getting on her feet and told how people are abusing the system! I wish more would do as she did.



It makes a person wonder how much of the money for these programs are going to the people running these programs. Especially when they did that to you after reporting fraudulent cases to the authorities. They tell people to report such cases. Then they do this? Unbelievable!



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aljea
2008-06-17 16:23:07 UTC
Yes people do abuse the system but many do not. It is very important to report those who fraud the system.

However, 1 year may not be long enough to get back on your feet.

Where I live in California, a minimum wage job is not even enough just to pay the rent for a one bedroom, not counting gas, food, supporting kids, etc. Kids require more bedrooms, making it impossible to afford a place. So that means, you need to go to school. School and work is hard with kids.

Most people on welfare do not have college education either because they had children too young, weren't confident in themselves to get one, or were in abusive relationships and were prevented from going to school. Some of them don't even have a diploma or GED. To make their lives better, requires education or at least job training. You potentially need a GED and you need the training, then you need to search for a job. This can take many years.

Welfare realizes it shouldn't be a lifetime, but they do realize getting on your feet takes time, so they have a 5 year limit.



I am on welfare since leaving an abusive relationship. So far it has been 11 months. I have been attending college for nursing and am currently in the process of getting a Phlebotomy license. This, in a few months, will get me off welfare and I can still work and finish my nursing school.

My point is, it will take me longer than 1 year, but I will be off it for good. If you push people off too soon, they will just need to go back, or drop out of school and be back where they started.
jenny
2008-06-17 16:04:03 UTC
I'm tired of al types of fraud, starting on the hill and rolling down.
guanete42
2008-06-17 16:26:40 UTC
It costs the people of the USA billions every year!! they do not have enough people to investigate, because it has gotten so far out of hand!!!
2016-04-04 01:18:52 UTC
Yes it is fraud. any change in the living arrangements of the household that is not immediately reported is fraud. if they get caught then they can get in trouble. but it could be hard to proove that he was really living there. i wouldn't sweat it too much. i think that if they get caught, they just get put off of welfare for a first offense, i don't think anything else will happen. although i have never been on welfare, so i can't say for positive, but i have heard that's the way it works. he better be sure to have proof of living arrangements somewhere else if need be. I'm not saying that it is right and i'm not condoning such actions, but like you said there are children involved, and they are the most important matter in this ordeal. if she is poor enough to recieve food stamps, medicaid and welfare, then those children need all they can get. i do hope the ex does try and either move or tells about his change in living arrangements, that would be best for the kids. God bless you honey.
2008-06-17 18:13:16 UTC
1 year? you are generous. you can find a job at McDonalds or Wal-mart w/i a month. Id give them 90 days, have a kid limit (more than 2 on welfare, forced adoption) and hire people to actually follow up on the people on it.



Bookish, as i used to be a drug user, i know many a hood rat living off their 4 kid's checks driving nice cars w/ diamond teeth and manicures while in section 8 apts, while their kids look like something from a picture from somalia. it really DOES happen, and its really pathetic.



Especially regarding illegal aliens abusing our systems, i think they should shut down all the programs aside from WIC and unemployment for 1 year. Those people throw their kids in the dumpster (literally) when they reach the age that they no longer qualify for as much.



I guess there is no shame in being a bum anymore. And i guess there is no pride in educating people to not repeat the patterns bringing down their own communities and stunting their children.
Bob H
2008-06-17 15:25:46 UTC
Only 20% of welfare revenue goes to welfare recipients, which means that the other 80% stays inside the government. It's not people on welfare that are the problem, it's the government administering themselves welfare. Imagine the government using the money that they pay themselves to fund a heath program.
2008-06-17 15:27:08 UTC
My, my. How do you find these cases of welfare fraud? I'm sure there's fraud; wherever money is involved, there's going to be fraud. But these myths of Cadillac-driving, diamond-wearing cheats collecting with 25 different aliases are just that: myths.

There do need to be more expectations of people who receive help: no bonuses for having more children (although it's not fair for the children to suffer, is it?) If the agencies need to hire more people to keep track of things, it would save money in the end. People working for these agencies aren't getting rich, either, and they're extremely overburdened.

I think I know where you're coming from, but it's pretty silly to expect people to go around looking for welfare cheats. How, exactly, do you know when people are cheating?

Either get a job in the system to try to help change it, or hire people so they can pull themselves up--or, keep quiet. Frankly, you sound somewhat jealous and a little bit paranoid.

Edit to Dondi: I guess I'm too busy going to work every day to sit in on trials of welfare cheats. I said there's fraud, but you're being cheated a lot worse by millionaires in the oil business than you are by most people on welfare. AS for my "babbling," I tend not to make wild statements without citing soures to back them up, which is more than most of you can say. Dishonesty comes in all colors and income levels.

What's funny is I'm an atheist, and you people probably claim to be Christians. WWJD?


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