If gun control works, why has gun crime increased since guns have been banned in England while gun crime?

Question

continues to decrease in the US?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/28/gun-crime-continues-to-decrease-despite-increase-in-gun-ownership/

Answer 1

not sure what Ceph is talking about, the EU named the UK as the most violent country in europe and its a known and verifiable fact that their violent crime rate went up after strict gun laws were implemented.



anyway, heres another breakdown of the crime rate in the UK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9efqhGBHZI



heres a link that shows that violent crime has decreased by 50% in the last 20 years (using FBI stats) and has been on a steady decline in the last 40 years in the western world. bear in mind that gun sales have gone up dramatically in recent years...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa98FHuaU0&feature=player_embedded

http://www.wanttoknow.info/g/violent_crime_rates_reduction





edit:



the most violent country in the EU with the highest rate...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html



then he claims its better than the US. ok lets see...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state



The UK sees 2030 violent crimes per 100000 people, and have some of the most strict gun laws of any developed country.



The US has the highest gun ownership rate at about 88 per 100 people. The US sees 466 violent crimes per 100000 people. and we have a much larger black and hispanic population which is where a huge percentage of our violent and gun crime comes from.



and yes, youre very rude.

Answer 2

I trust this. Why must an upstanding citizen be barred from dealing with guns when criminals will get their hands on one regardless of the legislation? I plan on doing a little recreational shooting once I grow old (if men and women can force at excessive speeds in a managed environment for fun, i will be at the variety, thanks), and i'm no longer seeking to be informed that i can handle a few plenty of hazardous equipment on a road with numerous other men and women in all varieties of weather however now not fire projectiles at a paper target from a handheld piece of apparatus.

Answer 3

Because if you arent afraid of getting shot by the man that you are robbing (because he doesn't have a gun, being a law abiding citizen), that''s more incentive to commit a crime!



If only criminals have guns we aren't much safer, are we?

Answer 4

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. And do you think criminals will follow laws

Answer 5

You read a right wing paper, rather than the Facts



read this plebs.



http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/period-ending-march-2012/stb-crime-stats-end-march-2012.html#tab-Violence



Also, note what we call violence.



I don't care if you Americans die, the more or less I don't care, but I do care that you LIE about Britain.



Grow up you small dick arsewipes and try and not be so stupid about the date of the material you comment!!



Shall. Sat Americas gun crime is like 1976?



Edit

Shocker american fat murderers don't like facts!!

Edit2

Wow,you lie about a country and then get upset when I point out your falsehood.

Your article is a nasty fascist right wing lie, Mine are actual facts, that's what the ONS is!? Try reading, and please note they include



"Violent crime covers a wide range of offences, from minor assaults such as pushing and shoving that result in no physical harm through to serious incidents of wounding and murder. ", unlike the FBI stats which only includes, rape, murder, attempted murder.



I have actual facts, you have a pro fascist paper which supported Hitler in WW2.



Hey, I don't care if you Anericans die, it's your business, Cary one, but when you lie about it her countries facts then I get upset.



You can be upset, but I'm not killing people, tats you.



The US 37th in education, arsewipes.



Bye bye, kill some American kids , that's all you care about.



edit3 lmao

John, you dipstick. I quote Real facts. You idiot, or are you both saying te ONS lying??



Also, I didn't say anything about Britain being less safe tan Europe, just better than the USA.



Edit 4

Fine



http://www.parliament.uk/Templates/BriefingPapers/Pages/BPPdfDownload.aspx?bp-id=sn01940

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Gun violence, notice the reduction over the last 10 years!!



Yes, I ave actual stats.



John, gosh I am rude but you promote murder. So, which is worse? Go ahead, I really don't care that 11,000 septics died due to guns in the UzsA and neither do you !



59 Brits sadly died in the UK, that I care about.



You keep your SAFE guns and I'll sadly live with our no guns!!



Like Lance Armstrong you are liars.

Answer 6

nice going john. well said