Question:
how many ppl think the USA is harder on corporate crimes than sex crimes?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
how many ppl think the USA is harder on corporate crimes than sex crimes?
Twenty answers:
Bartmooby
2006-05-31 21:35:36 UTC
If this question is in relation to Enron, those dirtbags basically stole the pension of hundreds of hard working people. They will probably not even serve their time (unlike sex offenders) and when they are free (assuming they went to jail at all) there will be NO registry to protect the life savings of innocent Americans from their greed. While I agree that heinous sex offenders should be locked up forever, that has no bearing on other types of criminals. You can't compare one to the other. Corporate criminals ruin lives just as much as sex offenders, they just do it with their accountants instead of their genitals.
2006-06-03 11:56:58 UTC
OFFENDERS CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY REALLY DID. EVEN IF YOU GET INFO ON WHAT HE DID -OFFENDERS MINIMIZE DISTORT, BLAME OTHERS, RATIONALIZE AND LIE. HERE ARE SOME OF THE WAYS



THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE VICTIM SAID HAPPENED AND WHAT HE SAYS IS THE DENIAL.



IF HE DOES NOT DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT THE VICTIM SAID, RUN- HE IS NOT AN HONEST PERSON.



COMPLETE DENIAL



Call on his Reputation (Complete denial) the offender will claim and have others claim for that he is a “good man” and could not have committed sexual abuse. He and others will say he is a pillar of the community, a devoted family man, military veteran, taxpaying citizen, and a church leader, has had no prior allegations of sexual deviance, and has had no prior arrests. The reality is that all those things have nothing to do with whether a person is an offender. Persons have offended and had those positive qualities. Community reputation is an immaterial issue offenders will bring up in an attempt to obscure the relevant facts of the abuse. Offenders may say- “I’m simply not that kind of person, I am a respected , successful man, and it’s impossible that I could commit an offense like your describing”, “Are you trying to say a man with my reputation could do something like this?, do you don’t know who I am?, I’m going to bring in the character letters to show you, ” “Do you know what I have done for this community, the children that I have saved, and you want me to sit here and admit to this hurtful…sickness?”



Others “retaliated” by claiming abuse (Complete denial) This type of denial is where the offender may try to discredit the victim by calling the victim a liar or vindictive. He states the charges against him are some persons or group of person’s method of getting back at him. Offenders may say- “ I was only being a responsible parent who was enforcing discipline, and now she says this to hurt me, she was looking to strike back, and now she did, apparently she’s fooling you too”, “The police are out to get me, they couldn’t get my brother during his years of stuff , so they made this up about me, I guess you don’t know how the police are,” “The victim hates me, because I choose her girlfriend instead of her, and this is payback, you don’t know these young girls are today, but I guess that better for you, look at the position I’m in, just for turning a girl down”, “The Victim's mother did this to get even, because her and my uncle had a problem way back, this is crazy I know, but you don’t know how this town works”



I'm too good to people. (Complete denial) In this case offenders will portray themselves as too helpful for their own good, and that they never committed any offense. Offenders may say- “I’m in trouble because they saw me coming, they should be here as they are the criminals”, “I’m just too darn friendly sometimes, and these people from the city took advantage of me”, “you ever heard no good deed goes unpunished?”, “I got involved with the wrong people, I never touched anyone, but I guess you’ll believe this nonsense too”



Incompetence by others(Complete denial) For this the offender will claim police, prosecution, public “pretender”, lawyer or some professional involved is incompetent and caused this “injustice”. Offenders may say- “These stupid police have the wrong person, but you know they are clueless and they can’t admit a mistake” , “This is all my so called lawyers fault, he was totally unprepared, this case had nothing, he didn’t do his job, and now you want me to say I’m guilty?, no, I don’t think so” , “You may not know as much as I do about what going on right now, I know how bad this DA wants arrests, she just pushes these through because it helps her win the election, I’m a victim of this political system”



Racial Prejudice by others-(Complete denial) for this denial the offender will attack the motives of police, victim, victim’s mother, witness, ECT as racist. The offender will claim that others are acting out of racial prejudice and they cannot be trusted. The offender in this situation is not only wrong about these others motives, he is also projecting his own hatred of whites, blacks, Hispanics ECT onto others. If listened for very carefully, you may hear him put responsibility for his and others antisocial behavior (not just sexual) onto what members of other groups may have done. Offenders may say- “That cop was black and the prostitute was black, the prostitute said I raped her, the black cop had to take her word, you know how those people are”, “I’m Hispanic, of course the family is going to push her to say I raped her, they’re rich white people, they can’t have their daughter with me, they won’t stand for that, you know this”, “ I’m here because the system is incapable of giving a black man a real trial”, “ I can understand how as a white person you are in denial about the racial issues going on in our country, that’s OK its not your fault, you only know what you are taught, I know where your at now”, “The problem is this is just like my trial, The decision already been made before it even started, I’m innocent but I just keep getting screwed on this case, now you want me to admit something I didn’t do just because of some racist cops”



Homophobic prejudice by others-(Complete denial) for this denial the offender will attack the motives of police act as motivated by homophobia and they cannot be trusted. Offenders may say- “I’m gay, so of course their going to do what they have to in order to get me in jail, I guess your naïve to entrapment, you should learn about what cops really do, I can’t believe you don’t know this stuff already”, “those cops hate gays so much they spend our tax money trying to figure out how to put us in jail, their too stupid to go after real crimes, so they make this stuff up”.



Appeal Process Denial(a form of complete denial) An offender will incorrectly think he can deny his offense until his appeal process is complete, thinking that despite taking a plea or being convicted he is not guilty until he says he is guilty or runs out of appeals. This type of denial is especially control seeking (like an offense!). Offenders may say- “because I have appeal in the courts this is an open case again, and I can’t talk about it until after my appeal”, “This is all BS, when my appeal comes back you’ll see, but relax until then, we can wait.”



I plead guilty, but I’m not guilty (Complete denial) In this denial offenders take back their admission of the offense to attempt to avoid responsibility Offenders may say “I gave a plea of no contest to avoid civil liability” “I plead guilty because I did not want to put my family through the trauma of testifying” “I plead guilty because I had no money to defend myself”



Attack the victim’s sexuality -this time publicly- (complete denial) for this denial the offender may bring out victims past sexual behaviors or make them up. Sexual history is brought up to imply that she should not be seen as a reliable woman because she had X partners, or that what he did was not so damaging as his victim was not a “good” person and what he took was not so valuable. What the offender is playing off is the fact that many in society share his misperception, and offenders may try to raise support from similar thinking persons. The offender and his supporter’s opinion of a “bad female” is a female who chooses not to limit her sexual behavior to what the offender and supporters feel is a reasonable number of sexual partners. The offender and supporters of course never ask themselves why they would be in a position to set the standards that others must live by, particularly persons who are hurting no one. In reality the victim being a nun or a prostitute does not in any way raise or diminished the damage caused by sexual abuse. Sexual abuse is not a form of sexuality for the victim; it is a form of abuse. Whether the victim had 100,000 sexual partners or none is always irrelevant, except through the eyes of offenders, those who dislike women, and especially those who have issues with women’s sexual freedom. These groups of course overlap and they usually share paternalistic, misogynistic, and religiously conservative opinions. Persons who feel this way also include males with more liberal social views but concerned of their own sexual abilities and consciously or innocuously hate the modern woman’s ability to evaluate a man’s sexual performance. Interestingly some females can have a real hatred of women who are more promiscuous than they are. These more “traditional” women may create the distortion that these “highly sexualized” women are not playing by the rules and are a threat to their marriage, relationship or family. More “traditional” women will go so far as to feel these sexually promiscuous women are responsible for their husbands or sons sexual offenses. Offenders (and others) may say- “Why don’t you find out how many boy’s she has been with, then you’ll understand this case, right now you’re missing the point”, “She a harlot, and she ruined another one of this communities son’s, but you don’t seem to care, ”, “ She was younger than him, but so experienced, and the law does not account for these situations, It’s just another injustice we have to deal with”, “I don’t understand the reaction, she’s been giving it away all over town , and the court is calling this rape”





Physical limitations imply inability (a form of complete denial) to use these denial offenders will bring up their sexual dysfunction, age, diabetes or other issues that are related to their inability to achieve or maintain erections. Of course an erection or even a penis is not necessary for sexual abuse to occur. Offenders may say- “I had prostate surgery so it's physically impossible for me to have molested her, which you do not seem to understand” “At my age its impossible for me to get a erection, so how can this whole thing have gone this far”, “I can’t even get it up, now you want to say I’m a molester, maybe you need to go back to school young man”







PARTIAL DENIAL OF THIER OFFENSE





Deny some of the behaviors but admit some - (Partial denial) the offender in this instance will admit some of his actions in order to gain credibility in his denials of others. Offenders may say-“I just touched her once or twice and she didn't mind, don’t believe that bullshit in that report, I’m going to sue them good”, “I did not show her my penis, I only asked her if she wanted to see it, the rest of that is nonsense” “I was touching myself in front of her, I admit that, but I kept it in my pants, she’s a liar, but she was put up to lying”



Denial of true extent of abuse, but admit some abuse (Partial denial) these offenders may admit to some of the offences but assert they did not offend as intrusively as they actually did. Offenders may say-“I only touched her, stop saying I put my finger in her, you were not there you can’t say I did that”, “Listen, for the last time, I admit I rubbed his penis, I have nothing to hide, I’m being honest, I did not sodomize him”, “I admit I did take off her clothes and have her masturbate me, but I did not put anything inside her, do you understand now, I never did that, they just said I did”.



Minimize frequency of the acts -( Partial denial) The offender will misstate of how many times the abuse occurred, giving a number of offences less then what occurred. The offender may become angry when the victims account is recognized as reality. This is common with offenders who offend the same victim over a long period of time. Offenders may say “three, maybe even four times, more than that , no way, I swear” “It only happened one time, that’s it” , “I don’t know why that kid made that number up, probably the DA got to him, that DA does that to guys”



Denial harm to victim - (Partial denial) mainly this distortion is about the extent of harm. Offenders will deny the true extent of harm while they are admitting they caused harm. In this denial the offender may admit the offense but deny the victim was harmed as much as would be reasonably assumed. From the offender's perspective, if the victim is not that harmed then what he did is not that serious. Offenders universally have difficulty seeing the offense and the aftermath from their victims' perspective. After the offense is committed, offenders often exhibit self-serving and distorted perceptions of their victims' behavior, especially if the victim is a family member or if they see the victim in court or in the community. The victims external functioning (in pain, but going through the motions of court proceedings, attending school or work, etc) is distorted by the offender into “see she’s doing alright, but I’m in trouble”. This denial is connected to the “Victim Stance”- Where the offender feels he is a victim. The victim stance occurs when an offender is unwilling to see all of his consequences as created by he and he alone, is unwilling to see the accurate amount of damage he caused others, is unwilling to see that the victim is completely innocent, and is unwilling to recognize the justice systems response to his actions as fair and justified. When some or all of these occur he inverts reality and feels he is the injured party. With the “Victim Stance” the offender will minimize the hurt to the victim and focus on the impact to the offender. In treatment offenders are quick to bring up how they were hurt by offense (how they will have probation, lawyer costs, time and cost of treatment) but will not mention how the victim was hurt. When the victim is brought up by the therapist the offenders will often describe how the victim “will get over it with some help from a therapist” but Offenders are never quet as optimistic about how the offender “will get over” his legal , economic, and family consequences. This difference is created by the disorder telling offenders that their victims are not as hurt by the sexual abuse as society portrays. The offender’s description of how destructive sexual abuse in general is can never be used as any indication that they have an understanding of what damage they personally have done. This is because offenders are always more accurate at recognizing the damage caused by other offences committed by other offenders than they are at seeing the damage done by their own offense. The more unlike their offense the more accurate the offender is at judging the harm done. Offenders may say-She has a boyfriend now so what occurred could not have been that harmful. Friends or family tell me victim was not harmed, so what’s the big deal. “She running around doing who knows what, but that was not caused by me, when will people see my side, what about what I lost?”



Denial of sexual motives of the abuse-(Partial denial) the offender may admit some parts of the offense but deny that there were any sexual intentions on his part. Offenders may say “I was just being helpful, teaching her about sex” “It was just a wrestling match”, “I was only rubbing the victims leg, she had fell”, “I did not mean to touch her there, we were playing and my hand went there by accident, in no way was it sexual, the mom overreacted, I guess she’s about a molester getting to her kid, people need to relax” , “I did see in her window, but I did not mean to, I know her brother and wanted to know if he wanted to smoke a joint, I’m not a peeper”, “I was just urinating and was not flashing anyone, I thought I was alone”, “ Sorry you had to get involved, I’m sure there’s some real offenders you could be seeing instead of wasting your time with this mess, its so simple, I did not mean for her to see me, I just choose the wrong places to urinate,”





Denial of grooming of victim or planning of offense-(Partial denial) The offender tries to convince himself or others the abuse was spontaneous and without any preparation of victim, or planning of behaviors. This is because the offender feels he will be seen as worse if he planed his offense. Offenders may say “”It just happened”, “I did not plan any of this!” “I acted on the spur of the moment. One minute I was working and the next thing I know I’m doing this”





Denial of deviant arousal, fantasizing, sexualization of victim, denial of having a disorder - (Partial denial) this offender admits the abuse but denies any fantasy or planning of the abuse. The abuse will be described as if it just came out of the blue with no warning signs to the offender. This offender is trying to conceal his deviant fantasy life and deviant sexual preferences out of both embarrassment and protection of the fantasy/behavior that he values. Admitting the behavior is one step closer to eliminating it and offenders with deviant issues greatly overvalue their deviancy and will strongly resisting giving them up. They will resist admitting what is absolutely obvious to everyone else. Offenders may say “Before I did it, I never thought of her that way ”, “I do not have sexual fantasies about minors, ever” , “I did not think about flashing prior to actually doing it”, “I don't have any interest in rape or aggressive sex” , “I am not into child pornography, it was just a thing I did one day”



Blaming offense on his own sexual abuse rather than deviant desires and planning (Partial denial) Here the offender tries to assert that responsibility partly lies on the person who abused offender many years ago, and tries to move the discussion away from his sexual and power motives to cloudy motivations about “recreating what happened to him” Offenders may say “Maybe it was because of what happened to me as a kid”, “I've been having sex with anyone I could sinse I was molested”



Denial of need for sex offender treatment - (Partial denial) this denial is related to the denial of possibility of future offending. In order to justify the offender not making the effort and sacrifices related to not re-offending such as attending sex offender treatment and making some changes in lifestyle the offender will present himself as “over” the issue. Offenders may say “I molested her, but I am not really a sex offender, now I’m on a list, this is just too much”, “I can guarantee you I will never do it again, I’m so different now, but how would you know?”, “I gave up alcohol like that, it was nothing, you don’t know me, so you have to assume I need help, I guess I’m stuck here even though I don’t need it””



Denial of a need for treatment-they have been “saved”, the offender claims the issue is over as Jesus or some other deity has saved him. The offender may even arrange for himself to see some religious leader for “counseling”. This “counseling” by religious leaders can often be extremely dangerous to the community as Christian, Islamic and Jewish fundamentalists all perceive women as deserving less power than males. Even if the Imam , Rabbi or Pastoral Counselor sees the offender as responsible for his offense the underlying belief system insists that males are superior to women and minors. Although they are usually not aware of it, this opinion is already held by offenders, and is implicit in the offenses they committed. This belief system is obvious in the male offender’s want of sex/power being more important than the female or minors well being. Offenders may say “I know you do not understand the power faith has given me, so I’ll pray for you”, “You and this clinic have nothing I will ever need, I have Jesus”, “and I understand you want to help me, but my faith has already done more than this place could ever help”



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2006-06-02 21:27:05 UTC
Sex offenders do have it far too easy, thats true. I think we should all be writing our politicians so they pass some real laws and not this soft registry stuff. Let offenders wear GPS for life (and pay for it),have parole for life (and pay for it) because they will always have urges to harm others and the abilty to rationalize doing it. A CEO can at least give back some of the money he stole, Sex Offenders can't give back a childs innocence.



Offenders are running the show and we as individuals cannot stop them. PLEASE Contact your lawmakers to convince them to pass some real laws that control offenders



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dfgdgf g
2006-06-02 20:30:14 UTC
Corporate get bigger punishments. Sexual offenders get probation, a slap on the wrist. We do not punish or control them enough. Sexual ofenders are such babys and cry over the consequences they earn. Maybe they go after children because they are so immature themself? I have never seen an offender be a man and own what he has created by his offense. They all just go on and on about the constitution. They should go molest the constitution if they like it so much. WAAAHHHH I have to pay for my mistakes- THATS NOT FAIR!!
kc5uci
2006-06-02 17:10:20 UTC
Some of these people are out of contact with reality. In some states you will have to register FOR LIFE for urinating in outside when you HAVE to go and think no one is watching, tickling a child ("he touched me"), A spiteful spouse in a divorce case making false allegations, I could go on and on. Oh, by the way, it has been shown by several reaserchers that sex offendors have the LOWEST recidivism rate of all crimes except murder. DEWEY
nk_rso
2006-06-02 15:36:13 UTC
you think?

how about having your mug shot on the internet and every time someone meet you. you have this fear if they think they have this "God given right" to beat the **** out of you.



Corporate Crime get to move on and possiblity be proud of the crime they committed. Usually it because they are able to earn alot of money.



Register sex offender usually can NOT get a job. it is next to impposible for them to get a job

name one sex offender that you know and have a good paying job.



i don't think so.

and yes Im a RSO



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dragondominatress
2006-06-02 15:21:26 UTC
Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. Every state is implementing MANDATORY jail terms for even first time offenders for specific sex crimes, including those young men caught in the "Romeo/Juliet" relationships where the girl lied about her age. You are basing your views on local new stories about how offenders are only getting light probation for some offense. Because of these types of sentences, laws are being drafted and past to make it impossible for judges to give light sentences anymore. Most states now have minimum 10-20 years for any crimes involving anyone under the age of consent, even if he/she were boyfriend/girlfriend.



Some states have implemented the DEATH PENALTY for repeat offenders (violent predators and child molesters, which By the way a guy who commits statutory rape is a child molester, even if it is consentual on the part of both parties involved).



And just registering, do you have no idea what registering does to you? Once you are registered EVERYONE can see where you live, you can't find work, if you do find work someone will complain about them hiring a sex offender so you get fired. You must register every time you move, and finding a place to live is almost impossible in most states now as most states now have a residency restriction of anywhere between 1000-2500 feet from schools, churches, day cares, parks, bus stops, school bus stops, recreation centers, etc.



Georgia now has a law that you can't live or loiter within 1000 feet of any of the above mentioned. This practically makes most cities and towns in Georgia off limits to all sex offenders, not just those considered pedophiles and sexually violent predators. There are over 10,000 sex offenders in Georgia who must move, and don't forget that even skinny dipping and guys who made the mistake of having sex with their underage girl friend fall under this new law.



IF and that is IF you can find a place to live, and you can find a job, you live with the stigma of EVERYONE knowing who you are because they can look you up on a website. And some states have made the registry retroactive, so that no matter when the offense occurred, and whether you were guilty or innocent but copped a plea deal because you couldn't afford a good lawyer to defend yourself, you must now register, sometimes for life.



Worse yet, Florida just passed a law where all sex offenders, no matter what the offense, will be issued an orange drivers license/id card with SEX OFFENDER stamped across it. So no matter where you go that you must show an ID, the bar, or shopping or whatever, everyone around you will see the orange license (Remember the Scarlet Letter?).



My question is, are you so sure you aren't a sex offender and just were never caught?



Do you even know exactly what can land you on the sex offender's registry? Each state is slightly different, but some states even put child abusers on theirs.



In Colorado you can end up on it for Indecent Exposure which is defined as

(1) A person commits indecent exposure if he knowingly exposes his genitals to the view of any person under circumstances in which such conduct is likely to cause affront or alarm to the other person.



So if the bar closes and you really need to use the bathroom, don't take a leak next to a dumpster, because if there is anyone around, you just committed a sex offense.



Also, don't streak (big thing in the 1970s) or skinny dip and get caught, because you would be a sex offender for those too.
ltaugher
2006-06-02 14:17:01 UTC
I do not think the USA is harder on corporate crimes than sex crimes. Those that commit sex crimes, their punishment goes on and on and on. In fact no one is punished more than the offender who commits a sex crime.
2006-06-02 12:48:48 UTC
The Myths and Truths about sexual offenders---The Myth::We can relax a bit now that we have sex offender registration.….The Truth Despite Megan's Law, the overall number of sex offenses occurring have actually increased, the websites can only do so much; we need GPS and lifetime probation to control this population. Currently we are failing to control them The Myth::Some Sex Offenders are not violent.….The Truth Non “Violent” Crimes such as molestation are just as traumatizing, and calling them “non-violent” is not in any way accurate. The Myth::Most sex offenders don’t have a lot of victims …The Truth Although 75% of sexual offenders were convicted of one offense, that just means they were only caught once, almost 100% of them have multiple victims. Many have been found to have hundreds when they were polygraphed on this question. The Myth::Most Sex Offenders were at one time abused as a child themselves, that’s why they do it.…The Truth Most "sex offenders" has never been sexually abused. In fact, offenders say this to appear less culpable for their crimes. When they are polygraph on this question their rates of being molested go way, way down, their rates are in fact close to the rest of us who are not molesting The Myth: :Sex.Offenders get serious punishment, and we don’t have to worry about them for years….The Truth They get revolving door sentences, if they even go to jail, and the vast majority do not, Offenders usually get probation, and even then sex offenders do not get GPS and lifetime probation(as they need to). Offenders quickly get back to a normal life while victims have lifetime consequences.The Myth::Sex Offenders are very controlled on probation or parole and cannot look for more victims. The Truth Offenders without GPS are on part time supervision, they are “good” while in the Probation officers eyesight for the weekly office visit. Offenders have all week to create more victims. Lifetime supervision with GPS would put society in charge. Currently offenders run the show, and this means more victims. The Myth:: Sex Offenders will grow old and out of this behavior.The Truth There is no “aging out” of offending. An offender has these desires and intentions for life. If they change it is to prevent being caught again. The Myth::Sex Offenders are all on the registry ….The Truth Sadly it’s very narrow and limited as to what crimes can be registered. Many offenders are given plea deals for non registerable crimes even though their actual behaviors were sexual offences. Laws must be changed so these “endangering the welfare of a minor” and other charges are registerable The Myth::Offenders friends and family support their recovery …..The Truth In realty the offender’s friends and family have denial regarding the offender’s full responsibility for his offense (they like to blame victims, police, DA ect). Offenders friends and family usually minimize the crime (he only touched her breast), and offenders friends and family often belittle rather than support the goals of supervision and treatment. Overall friends and family help the disorder rather than the offender who has it. Almost all of the time friends and family are working against the good of the community, although they may not know this. The Myth::The community is the main concern during the supervision process ….The Truth Actually, the current situation is budgets and offender rights are more important than community safety. The Myth::Offenders have to register immediately with local law enforcement. …..The Truth Sex offenders are often given up to 10 days to register upon moving in, or being employed within a state. Some states don’t require sex offenders visiting their state to register. Most states do not require sex offenders to register in advance of a move, they can move in and then inform. Getting a violation on a manipulative offender trying to beat the system is far too difficult. The Myth::Megan's Laws are consistent across the United States and protect the public equally. ….The Truth States laws vary, from only a 10-year registration without being put on the website to a more appropriate lifetime registration with community notification. (although registration is not supervision, and supervision without GPS is only 20 minutes a week of supervision) The Myth::Judges do not have discretion and have to give offenders the registration and probation terms that apply. …. The Truth In New York for example offenders can lawyer up and reduce the “level” they get at their hearing. Molesters can assert they are “non violent”, “sober”, ect, and get a level I or II and avoid the III that gets them posted on the website. Pushy lawyers advocating for the offender can get the Judges to change the sex offender conditions of probation as well, removing bans on child contact, allowing offenders to drink alcohol, own a softball team, and have computers, ect. Currently Judges have far too much leeway and offender’s attorneys use this to give the offender more freedoms that he then uses to act his sexual offences, even while on probation. Taking away judges discretion will allow society to determine the rules rather than the offender’s lawyer.
2006-06-02 10:44:58 UTC
We are way too easy on those who decide to abuse children. Here is my answer to these people who abuse our loved ones

Sex Offender Legislation “Wish List”

1-GPS and lifetime supervision/treatment Law The failure of today's solutions regarding sexual offenders is because we are stuck in the strategy of “public notification” rather than “controlling offenders”. The current model puts the burden on parents rather than offenders, and makes the wrong people work to prevent abuse. Remotely (GPS) knowing where an offender is at all times throughout his lifetime can help to prevent that offender from creating new cases of sexual abuse.

2-Include all known offenders in the management plan-for life. It is wrong to include just those under supervision since the Meagan’s Law was written. People do not ever age out of this behavior so why an old is charge less important than a new charge. Sexual offences are the most under reported crimes (according to the FBI). The fact that a molester has not been arrested recently does not necessarily means he has not offended. In my opinion all offenders should be included in any plan, regardless of when their offense occurred. I believe some states have done this already.

3-Put all offenders , levels I, II or III on the website . I believe Florida does this. The leveling tool is very poor and pedophiles often end up with only a level I because they did not use force, and they superficially complied with treatment. The way the leveling system works pedophilic “groomers” who do not use force (and are the most busy of all offenders with hundreds of victims) are often not level III’s and therefore are able to have their offense relatively unknown. In New York for example offenders can lawyer up and reduce the “level” they get at their hearing. Molesters can assert they are “non violent”, “sober”, ect, and get the “points” reduced or get the judge to “override” the scale. Currently the public notification system is failing. All offenders of all levels should be on the website.

4- “Victim Shield Law”. As you know one of the few protections we offer rape victims is “Rape shield laws”, in order to at least try and prevent a rape victim’s sexual history from being put on trial rather than the rapist. In child sexual abuse cases there are no “Rape shield laws” to prevent the victim, or the victim’s family (often the mother) from being made the center of negative attention. In the past defense lawyers for rapists would portray rape victims as promiscuous, today child molester’s lawyers portray victims and victim’s mothers as manipulative, litigious, unreliable, angry, mentally ill, sociopathic, medicated, or undedicated. Because we as a society love to blame women, especially mothers, molesters have been able to harness the misogyny in our culture in order to escape responsibility for their offences. Like the old rape cases that would revolve around the victims sexual past, today molester cases revolve around a child or a mother’s real or fictional problems instead of the focus of attention being the sexual abuse committed by the offender. I do not know if there can ever be a “victim shield law” to prevent the victim/victim’s mother being put on trial rather than the molester, but I know it would help victims avoid being re-traumatized in the system and help society hold sexual offenders accountable. One of the things to always remember with offenders is they are control seekers, and will take any opportunity to attack rather than just defend. They feel entitled to their behavior and see being held accountable as an injustice they are being forced to suffer, and they have zero guilt in harming any number of people (even their children) in order to escape the consequences they deserve.

5-Plea deals down to “Endangering the welfare of a minor”. Despite the underlying behavior being the sexual abuse of children offenders are often given convictions that hide the nature of their behavior. When this happens offenders can get employment that gives them access to children, offenders are not on the State Sex Offender Registry. The other consequence to their being given non-sexual charges is that it cuts their supervision time in half. Misdemeanor sex offences carry 6 years probation supervision but “Endangering the welfare of a minor” carries only three. I feel the law should be changed so offenders cannot be given non-sexual abuse charges.

6-Make “Endangering the welfare of a minor” registerable , if the judge feels it was a sexually motivated crime. The registry is to narrow and limited as to what crimes can be registered. Laws be changed so “endangering the welfare of a minor” is registerable when the behavior or motivation was sexual.

7-“Standardized” conditions for those on sex offender probation. Right now offenders with good lawyers can get specific (or all) sex offender conditions removed from their sexual offender conditions of probation. This means that sexual offenders are on probation but are allowed to drink alcohol, work with children, have computers, go to bars, and do other things that will create a higher risk for the community. I feel there should be a “Statewide Sex Offender Conditions of Probation” that conditions cannot be removed from (but conditions can be added to suite the offenders issues).

8-Sexual Offender Contraband law- Strangely it is legal for sexual offenders off probation to own all kinds of things such as handcuffs, police lights, spy cameras, and software to make their internet behavior more anonymous.

9-Sex Offender use of technology law- When bank robbers use technology such as wearing body armor the penalties are increased, why are sex offender allowed to use any technology without added consequences. Offenders choose the internet because it allows greater access to children and greater anonymity. They should be punished for use of technology to harm a child. (technology such as Computers, digital cameras, webcams, ect)

10-“Secrecy Bind Law” The offender getting his victim to not report the crime he committed should be a separate crime that he suffers added consequences for. The pain that a victim suffers because the offender threatened, tricked, or manipulated the victim into silence should be seen as a separate and deserving of added consequences.

11- “Parental Alienation Syndrome” is a pseudo syndrome that is being used to get offenders off the hook by saying (incorrectly) that sexual abuse allegations come from a manipulative ex- playing head games with a child rather than because the child was actually molested. This “Parental Alienation Syndrome” is not a legitimate disorder, has not been subjected to peer review, has been ignored for 20 years by the APA, AMA, NASW, ECT because it is just a sophisticated way to say your wife is crazy and turned everyone against you. It is being pushed by hired guns such as Doctors, PhD’s, and lawyers to get their child molesting clients out of trouble. It is a favorite of the “Fathers Rights” groups who see men as victims of the Family Court system. By the way, these “Fathers rights” groups, “wrongly accused” groups, and “victims of allegations” groups are very organized and spend a good deal of time and energy networking and paying professionals. These angry, entitled molesters are organized and work hard, and I feel we need to work just as hard against them. My point is I feel we need some legislation to block this fake disorder from being used in court
2006-06-02 08:28:19 UTC
You have got to be kidding! The darlings of Corporate crimes get out of prison and get right on with their lives. The rehabilitated former sex offender, who has been through extensive treatment, has his and his families life in danger of vigilante murders. Is denied due process ALL the time. Can't take his children to the park. Can't go for a parent/teacher conference for his/her child. Oh yes, by the way, this goes for the single parents who are rehabilitated former sex offenders. So they can't check on their childs school progress. Attend any function their child may be performing in (which causes most of these children to not get involved in extra curricular activities). So you tell me how those convicted of corporate crimes have it so bad? They still have their money, while the rehabilitated former sex offender (possibly actually innocent) can't use his/her possible college degree and is lucky if he/she can get a job digging ditches. Yes siree, those poor corporate criminals just have it so hard!
chancysnaps
2006-05-31 22:25:16 UTC
I agree, but the problem is that there isn't enough emphasis on cracking down on the sex offenders! It isn't an illness that drives people to do these terrible things to people. I do believe that corporate crimes are punished more than sex offenders. I just heard of a sex offender that lives in Horton, KS that has be working as the maintenance man! Now, if some people in that area had left their children alone at home or unsupervised God only knows what might have happened to the children. The system to catch these sex offenders is all wrong and I think that it should be harder for the sex offenders to get jobs or be in a place that allows children. Something needs to be done before one of these sex offenders goes further than sexual encounters!
justbackoff001
2006-06-02 10:01:12 UTC
are you talking men or women, there's also different and bias sentencing towards the sexes. A women sex offender gets no jail time and a slap on the hand where as a man would be locked up for life. A women corporate criminal has the same luxury, ask Martha Stewed..
2006-06-02 09:01:32 UTC
yeah they only need to serve time in jail and register FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES AND BE HARRASSED BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE REGISTER!!!!!!!

How would you like for every one to know that you made a mistake??? and after you have served time an recieved help people keep harrassing you??? now i was on the end of a sexual offence but still these people are just that PEOPLE!! THEY ARE NOT DIRT ON THE GROUND TO BE TROMPED ON JUST BECAUSE THEY MADE A MISTAKE!!

corporate crimes are bad because those people that do those crimes are just laughing at the small man because they think that just because the small man didnt go to some fancy ivy leag school then the small man isn't bright enough to see what is going on. where as a sex offender may have lived in life where the sex act was done to them when they were young and they think its normal. corporate people werent raised like that.
verbalmedicine7443
2006-05-31 21:28:22 UTC
Good point and when you look at the Enron case, Lay & Skilling are looking at basically life in prison yet some sex offenders get off with a slap on the wrist.
2006-05-31 21:26:52 UTC
Do you know anything about the law? "They only need to register"? Yeah, after they have served their time.



There's no such thing as a "corporate criminal" in this country anymore. I think it's definitely the other way around. You are completely backwards.
Wolfpacker
2006-05-31 21:30:05 UTC
I know Kenneth Lay & Martha Stewart do. The time served in our state for white collared drimes are higher than sex crimes. I guess there checkbooks are more dangerous.
Awesome Bill
2006-05-31 21:29:05 UTC
Hard on who? This country's justice system is so hog tied by the liberals it's a wonder anyone goes to jail.
brydiem
2006-05-31 21:28:41 UTC
Yep, but i am aussie, so i am not very informed
2006-05-31 21:27:56 UTC
you're joking, right?


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