Question:
Should we execute those who commit crimes against children, killing a police officer etc:?
tunisianboy46
2006-10-05 19:05:20 UTC
The question is should we execute for the following crimes, if yes please say why YOU would execute or call for execution:

Rape (Male or Female)
Raping a child,
Killing a child,
Killing a Police officer,

Suggest a crime if none of the above for which you would call for execution - SENSIBLE answers only all others will be reported as abuse.
40 answers:
sasha
2006-10-09 09:37:39 UTC
i think all those crimes deserve execution, if not life in prison, and life should mean life, not 15 years.

but I'm not Keen on paying my taxes to those filthy, evil scumbags so that they can live out the rest of their lives in comfy prison cells that are provided to them nowadays - out of our wages!

and that's why execution is sometimes the best way, also if they couldn't respect a persons life, why should theirs be?
TC
2006-10-05 19:48:43 UTC
To me whether killing a person was justified would depend less on the actual crime than on whether the criminal had done something so very bad that he could be considered as having resigned from the human race. I would say that killing or raping a child would qualify and I would definitely support the death penalty for such offences with certain limitations - eg killing a child quickly to end enormous suffering in an accident situation where help was many hours away and good recovery impossible.



Raping an adult is a bit more problematic. The whole issue of consent is so fraught with uncertainty, but if it could definitely be established that the rape was deliberate, recreational in nature and done with cruelty I would say yes.



As far as killing a police officer, Im not sure. Traditionally crimes of violence against police are treated with more severity, not because the police person is special, but because of the damage to public security if the police are not held in respect. I would hesitate to award the death penalty for this.



Personally I would add persistent, grave and wanton cruelty to animals.
anonymous
2006-10-05 19:48:25 UTC
Good question, and challenges deeply felt beliefs of everyone. Punishment or retribution or cure or safety of society? Which of those is the guiding principle to follow?

On the basic principle of execution, I believe that the eye for an eye principle is or should be the basis of maintaining a healthy society. It is tough, but realistic, and easily understood!

Now I am not saying that we put rapists in prison so they get raped (or rape others!). I think cases of rape are difficult, so we must be careful about a blanket type answer to this. Relationships are tricky and sometimes a trist can turn nasty and become a "rape", and in some cases it may be true that the victim plays a part in contributing to it in some way. Even though it is hard for a girl (say) to go public on a rape case (most choose not to) it may in very rare cases be a pay back to a man she wants to hurt. In the case of rape of a child, there is no similar "contribution" by victim as the child - any child - is innocent. It is the moral, civic and human duty of every adult to protect all children. It is an evil crime. In such a case I would consider chemical "castration" such that the person concerned is unable to rape again (after an appropriate jail sentence of course). This should be reversible- I say reversible since a surgical castration is morally unacceptable in a civilized society and we may in the future find a better way to immobilise such people. I dont believe that in either case , rape of child or of adult there should be a death sentence.

For murder however, I think one of the worrying things about death sentences is the number of people on Death Row who have subsequently been found innocent because of later forensic evidence or police tampering.

Therefore I believe the peron convicted must serve a proson sentence which generates income to pay back the damage to family and others who suffered as a result of the loss of a loved one. Why waste another life? Make the murderer try to put right the wrong he/she has done. I do not think that there is a difference in punishment for a different type of person murdered, child or police officer, as the criminal must pay retribution from prison to those affected, regardless of sex age gender or job. I think a family who has a child muredered may initially wish the murderer dead, but they might over time be comforted by the fact that an income is being generated and they can put this to use in the memory of their lost child. I believe this preferable.

What crime would I call for execution? What crime is so bad that it calls for a sort of public justice? A collective cleansing? Someone who is deeply sick or evil, and causes the death and suffering of many individuals and for whom retribution is meaningless or impossible.
rexallen
2006-10-05 19:33:26 UTC
Aithough I am not a death penalty proponent,I can see giving the death penalty to one who murders a child or rapes a child. Just outright rape of an individual, no, but a long prison sentence with no parole for the first offense, yes, death for a second offence. The murder of a police officer is a questionable one. First, I respect the true law enforcement officers who do their job from their heart. However, with the

many good officers around, there is always that one who tries to take advantage of their position. If in fact one of these rogue policemen were to be killed because of these types of actions, a death penalty should not be. However, if the death penalty advocates get such a legislation passed, I would say they must also pass safeguards, primarily, a 30 day review of all court documents before a death penalty assigned by a judge and jury becomes binding. If, for any reason, it is found that there was gross prosecutorial conduct, the death penalty would be set aside and the prosecuting attorney would surrender their license immediately and for life.
Curious George
2006-10-05 19:16:45 UTC
Yes, I believe we should execute criminals in certain situations, such as the heinous crimes you've mentioned. The reason I think this is that, at least for the crimes against children, would be committed again once the perpetrator served his time and was back out on the streets. Killing a police officer is equally as bad, but while the criminal might not kill another officer once he was free, I don't think he would have any respect for authority and would continue in his life of crime.

Having said that, I know there are instances where people are truly rehabilitated; however, I feel that if we executed criminals, it might deter others from committing those crimes themselves and thus save lives.
anonymous
2006-10-06 08:41:54 UTC
The death penalty for Rape of an adult was declared unconstitutional by the United States Supreme Court in Coker. That case left open the question of the constitutionallity of the death penalty for rape of a child. There has been one conviction for capital rape of a child in the United States. It occurred in Louisiana and is still pending through the post conviction & appellate process. Personally, I think it should be declared Constitutional based on the tremendous long term harm, often worse then death, that results from the crime plus the fact that the likelihood of rehabilitation for the offender is zero.



As for killing any person, individual circumstances have to be consider when applying the death penalty not just broad generalities.
william john l
2006-10-05 19:17:55 UTC
If you have seen the film about Derek Bentley and how he was executed you would be sick to your stomach and want a better way than more violence and cruelty no matter what the crime - as a society we have to be better than those who break the law and he did not even kill the policeman but the boy who did got a few years and then paroled - it was a revenge killing to send a message that if you hurt a police officer we will break your neck and I am so sad that enough of you think it is an answer
arewethereyet
2006-10-05 19:27:43 UTC
Should we execute for some crimes? Most definately. Perhaps because I live in Texas it comes natural to us to put a rabid dog down. It's just the logical thing to do .... no, it is not pretty or fun, it is just a fact of life and a grim thing to be done.



Yes to first degree murder, no matter who the victim (child or police).



No to rape of anyone, but my solution to that problem is perhaps the same, only more cruel. If convicted, a rapist or perp of any violent crime should have their crime tattoed on their forehead or cheek. They should then be turned out onto the streets with no help from society whatsoever.



This would mean: no use of hospitals, no access to law enforcement or the court system, not even allowed on public transportation or use of toll roads! No Social Security Income when you age, no ability to even own a car or have a bank account.



The theory is that if you do not wish to live in our society according to our rules, then you will not reap the benefits of society. If you are beaten and robbed, don't bother calling the police, don't go to a hospital; you can't even take anyone to court and sue them privately.



I'm pretty sure that if that were done, the crime rate for violent crime, like rape, would drop dramatically. Is it drastic? Sure, but it is either that or we can pay hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to rehabilitate a rapist in a flawed system.
budlowsbro420
2006-10-05 19:41:25 UTC
Yes ....And I also think that they should be publicly executed as well , and broad-casted on ALL channels ( just as the presidents state of the union addresses are ).....BUT.....There must be due process of the law , and I think that the 3-strike law is 1 too many (fool me once-shame on you...fool me twice-shame on me ) So the first offense would carry a long sentence of very hard labor , (and the profit would go to the victims family or a victims fund/trust ) along with the seizure of ALL of the convicted' assets ( personal and shared ) And if/when released permanent parole (with tracking device implanted and irremovable). I know it sounds harsh , but the crimes you listed sound even harsher!
Dzee
2006-10-05 19:09:15 UTC
This is based strictly on opinion, but I think the death penalty should be enforced on an "eye for an eye" basis. I don't think crimes such as rape are severe enough to deserve death, but I think if you kill another person (ON PURPOSE!) then you should be executed. If it was accidental then I believe a long, long jail sentence would suffice. But of course this would never happen because the courts would be under too much pressure to decide whether a killing crime was intentional or not, because if they say it is and it really wasn't then. . . The person under question would already be dead.
anonymous
2006-10-05 19:17:54 UTC
I don't know. All this stuff with our children sickens me, and something must be done to set an example. There are so many crazy defenses anymore. Don't get me wrong, I don't want an innocent person put to death. I think there should be a mandatory death penalty for killing anyone. There's a 50 some year old guy in ND, who spent most of his life in prison or the State Hospital. He had assaulted I think about 40 women. Shortly after he got out--a couple of years ago around Thanksgiving--he kidnapped a college girl, smothered her with a plastic bag, stabbed her, raped her and threw her body into a ravine. Personally, I think the same should be done to him. Then there's the child rapist/killers. I think they should be put to death the same way they killed their victims. A quick shot in the arm after laying around prison for 10 years while their case is appealled, appealled, appealed is not enough.
Phlodgeybodge
2006-10-06 00:24:15 UTC
With reports that Britains jail system is full to capacity on the news last night I think it's high time we adopted a more hardline approach to some more serious crimes. The death penalty does still exist in this country - for high treason or mutiny - so it would just be a case of adding a few more crimes to the list!



I don't think a quick death is no punishment. I do think that we punish the victim and/or the relatives of victims by allowing the offender to languish in prison, at our expense and with almost all of his civil liberties still in tact (Meaning if they squeal about their human rights being infringed we allow them all manner of additional freedoms) - call that being tough on crime and the causes of crime?
?
2006-10-05 19:18:32 UTC
No to raping a male or female adult, but definitely forced castration and many years of jail. Unless, it is a horrible violent rape with serious injuries. No to statutory rape over 15. Yes to to children 15 and under. Yes to killing of any kind that is premeditated. I am of the view that life is not precious. There are those in this World who deserve life and those who do not. Killers do not. The worst rapists and pedophiles do not. I say no to over 15 because what are you going to do if an 19 year old has sex with a 15 year old? Kill him? It's wrong, but not something we should kill for.
tomhale138
2006-10-05 19:12:43 UTC
I would say yes for all these,Its not that I think a cops life or even a childs live is worth more than any other persons, but in order for society to work i guess public servants in pursuit of their jobs should maybe have a little more protection since they are exposed. A child is pretty much defensless, and really there is no excuse to kill one, although my gfs kids make that statement debatable sometimes. I guess I would add another couple death penalty offenses, one being that falsifying evidence to convict anyone of these crimes would call for the death penalty.
frankiethebear2002
2006-10-05 20:13:01 UTC
i cant in all conscience advocate capital punishment under any circumstances. i see it as legalised murder plain and simple. i believe that the problem lies with te judcial system who can sentence somone to life imprisonment, but then set them free within 7 years. where is the logic in that. if someone is sentences to life it should mean life, no parole, no time off for good behaviour, life should mean life.

there is of course the economic factors involved. why keep someone in prison at the cost of 30k per year when we can simply inject the, end of story? in a civilised society we have to be willing to bear the cost of this, why? because taking a life is wrong. please do not misunderstand me, i think that prisoners have an easy time of it with satellite tv, ps2 and all the rest of it, where is the punishment?? keep the murderers, rapists, chils abusers in prison for the rest of their lives, but make them work and work damned hard. prisons should be organised with real workshops producing real goodswith the proceeds of the sale of these goods used to finance their own incarceration and make financial recompense to their victims and the families of their victims. if someone were to see the error of their ways,tough, they still shouldnt have done the crime. No privileges, no t, no contact with the outside world. prison should be a punishment, not a means to learn new ways of doing things from other inmates. as for some prisoners actually suing the prison service for inhumane treatment? don't make me laugh. so there we have it my views. i dont think many people will agree with me, but as i said at the start i cant advocate taking one life for another. i think it would be more of a punishment for someone o realise what they had done and to have to live with the idea that they will NEVER be free again.
anonymous
2006-10-05 19:28:57 UTC
Yes we should execute, but it should carried out ,within a year.

They should be able to choose, between Gas Chamber or

Electric Chair. The Law should be Nationwide , no wiggle room

for Lawyers to try to postpone the execution. Black and White no

Grey area, just guilty or not guilty , end of story. Its a shame this

Country , doesn't have the intestinal fortitude , to do this.
auntb93again
2006-10-05 19:10:40 UTC
Actually, I would probably give a longer list than that. But my reason, ironically, is compassion for the criminal.



Which do you think is the more "cruel and unusual" punishment: to execute someone with lethal injection, as humane as anything we would do for a sick dog, or let them live without any possibility of parole in an American prison, run by gangs and rapists? This is especially true of child molesters, who are treated to "a dose of their own medicine" nearly every night by their fellow inmates.
candy g
2006-10-05 19:17:01 UTC
I personally think any taking of another life should result in you losing your own..........and YES would be more than happy to oblige if it was one of my own that was killed............



I personally also think that anyone that kills a police officer in the line of duty should also be put to death............regardless of what people might think THEY are often all that's between us and the rabble..............



As for rape well as heinous as that crime is for a 1st offence then no but REPEAT offenders oh hell yes...............



Also some place up there in your list should be for people that KNOWING they are sh*t faced drunk get behind the wheel of a car and kill others...............
shermynewstart
2006-10-05 19:12:42 UTC
All except the police officer, unless you would include all murders. Crimes against children or anyone who is physically weaker should be taken seriously and they're not. Men who beat their wives get a slap on the wrist, but someone with an ounce of pot gets sent "up the river".
Sally J
2006-10-06 12:21:39 UTC
Rape - if proven beyond doubt - castration.

Rape of a child - Yes! (proven beyond doubt)

Killing ANYONE - Yes! (proven beyond doubt)



But then we believe ourselves to be a civilised country and therefore don't have the death penalty. We therefore expect victims and victims families to be happy with pathetic excuses for sentences and punishments!!!



Could it be deemed that we are more civilised IF we brought back the death penalty?



So many arguments and pros and cons!
firstknight
2006-10-05 19:18:46 UTC
i feel that the punishment should fit the crime, if you kill someone depending on how if in self - defence , etc. i wouldnt, but if you kill for just because, etc, death. Rape of a child, now being a father of a little boy, if anything was to happen like that to him, god help that person that did it, slow and very painfull death
zekips
2006-10-06 00:56:56 UTC
No on 2 grounds.



1 Murder is murder is murder whether by an individual or the state.



2. Why is a child's or policeman's life more important than mine?
anonymous
2006-10-05 19:32:51 UTC
Yes, I believe that most of those crimes should be punished by execution IF the perpetrator is deemed to be of sound mind.



An enlightened society does not execute the mentally unfit.



Now, as to the "conditions" for answering THIS question; i.e. "SENSIBLE answers only all others will be reported as abuse..."



How dare you pose such a blatently fascistic and extortionary premise! You act like a dictator.



Are you deluded enough to think that you control this forum?



ANYONE can answer any question as they like, regardless of whether YOU think it is frivolous or appropriate.



If you do not enjoy public debate, or if you cannot accept mixed responses, you need to stay out of forums like this one -



DESPITE the fact that your question was a good one. We really need LESS controlling twits in our midst.



For your information, I have just voted this question as a good one, but I have also just reported YOU for abuse and harrassment.



Rethink this one Adolph, you may be wearing your knickers too tight. You have NO right to control how people answer this or any other question.



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NOTE:



Here’s something we might like to know about our question asker. His e-mail to me;



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Message: Given the serious nature and the content of the question I have the right to report as abuse those that are points gaming. You have made an accussation of harrassment, this question or the stipulation of SENSIBLE answers is not harrassment of any kind. To liken me to a dictator is a bit hypocritical of you when all I see is someone being abusive!



You have also likened me to Adolph, this is a personal attack on my character. I have screenshot for evidence and will use Yahoo's abuse report forum to report you. I will not tollerate a slur on my name.



One last thing, you had the choice of answering the question or not, don't moan about something YOU chose to answer!!!



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NOW - MY REPLY;



Have at it stormtrooper!



But have a closer look, it is YOU who have threatened me, and a screenshot does not indicate anything improper in my actions. I invite you to submit it.



However, your e-mail DOES reveal your extortive manipulation to compel me to kowtow to you and I simply will not.



You are misguided and deluded to think you have the right to control answers. You are like a fascist and I will not be intimidated by you.



If for no other reason, you are a fascist because you try to deny me and others our rights to express ourselves as we see fit. Even if you do not like that.



You are a tragic, pathetic little person and you should return to the comfort and safety of your police state.



Isle of Lucy
anonymous
2006-10-05 19:23:19 UTC
Executing for rape doesn't seem fair.



I'd rather have execution be done on computer virus writers. Then I'd be a much happier person.
Jack
2006-10-05 19:10:03 UTC
In Theory yes. Not for Rape but for murder.

BUT,,, As you can never be 100% sure then do we want to run the risk of executing an innocent person? In my view NO, NEVER.



So the answer is NO.
aangelkissed
2006-10-05 19:08:34 UTC
yes because those are horrible crimes and I honestly believe you can not be "cured" or reformed when you have a sick mind like that. But then again the christian part of me says no let the lord sort them out.
anonymous
2006-10-05 22:36:18 UTC
id say yes to murders they should be hung but if you were to give rapist the death penalty then they would more likely kill seeing as they are going to be executed anyway so might actually encourage murder
anonymous
2006-10-05 23:21:02 UTC
Yea and it shouldn't take 50 years to do it. Once they are found guilty beyond a responsible doubt they should be put to death
gary n
2006-10-05 19:09:34 UTC
yes it should be mandatory. make the punishment quick also . don't let them lay around the jail for years. these children are all so Innocent. these people should never be let off easy with the excuse i am crazy
Chris M
2006-10-05 22:09:58 UTC
I don't see why the murder of a child or copper should be any different to the murder of any one else. Murder is murder. If you're going to bring back capital punishment for murderers, then it shouldn't matter who is murdered.
mat67
2006-10-06 04:43:42 UTC
death is not a punishment its a releass. think of a better punishment like real life in prisonment which means life.
?
2006-10-05 19:10:26 UTC
I oppose the death penalty.



but if we use the death the penalty, I would execute murderers and only serious murderers.
lori b
2006-10-05 19:08:34 UTC
i say execute for all those crimes.because its wrong, and sick and whoever does these crimes should not be here anymore
anonymous
2006-10-05 19:07:34 UTC
Bring back hanging-Just as the Conservatives thought it had gone away.
anonymous
2006-10-05 19:09:16 UTC
doesnt that put you just as low?If someone kills someone they should have to take the dead persons place to raise the kids,deal with the family,live in the deceased persons shoes,all the friends of the cops, yea I bet they would kill themself
anonymous
2006-10-05 19:08:05 UTC
No to all. I don't see a harmless death as punishment, but a way out of punishment.
djtzclark
2006-10-05 19:09:31 UTC
yep. to set examples of consequences for lewd behavior.
anonymous
2006-10-05 19:14:34 UTC
We? Do you mean you?
Tinkerbell
2006-10-05 19:07:32 UTC
I DON'T KNOW IT DEPENDS ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
anonymous
2006-10-06 05:49:34 UTC
YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!


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