Question:
Gorsuch, Thomas Wanted the Cake Shop Decision to Go Further Who can possibly disagree with it?
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2018-06-05 17:41:53 UTC
Thomas said the court should not only have ruled for Phillips’s free exercise of religion, but should have considered his freedom of speech, which Kennedy’s ruling did not address because the court “has some uncertainties about the record.” Thomas’s opinion, in which Gorsuch joined, contended that Phillips’s custom wedding cakes fall under the Constitution’s free speech guarantee because they are “expressive conduct.”

“Phillips is an active participant in the wedding celebration,” Thomas wrote. “He sits down with each couple for a consultation before he creates their custom wedding cake. He discusses their preferences, their personalities, and the details of their wedding to ensure that each cake reflects the couple who ordered it. In addition to creating and delivering the cake—a focal point of the wedding celebration—Phillips sometimes stays and interacts with the guests at the wedding. And the guests often recognize his creations and seek his bakery out afterward. Phillips also sees the inherent symbolism in wedding cakes. To him, a wedding cake inherently communicates that ‘a wedding has occurred, a marriage has begun, and the couple should be celebrated.’”
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2020-08-05 18:55:59 UTC
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2018-06-05 19:15:41 UTC
All this craziness over a cake! I would have gone to another bakery or even better learned to make my own. Or if I didn’t want to make one would have said I had the flu or something.



You know what’s going to happen now don’t you? A bunch of Christians are going to go to a Gay bakery and demand they make a cake that homosexuals find offensive. We’re going to have riots over cakes. The Great cake riots of 2018/19
Samwise
2018-06-05 18:45:26 UTC
Thanks for reporting on that opinion. I hadn't seen coverage of it.



I do think the narrowness of the ruling was suitable for the case, and serves a purpose: a later test case, which might even affirm the view Thomas expressed in this one, can only clearly do so if the factor of regulatory hostility toward the religion is absent.



I might have to go look at Thomas' full opinion before I'm sure whether I agree or not. He IS on record as holding the view that the Establishment clause restricts only federal government, not states. I believe on that he is mistaken, and I would have to consider whether it (combined with his known preference in religious establishments) has affected this opinion.



Besides, Thomas' view on the Establishment clause would undermine Kennedy's basis for the ruling, by allowing a state to establish in law either (as Thomas would prefer) some form of Christianity, or (as the Colorado commission demonstrated) hostility toward Christianity.
Think Different
2018-06-05 18:09:52 UTC
I disagree that he was allowed the right to refuse service to the gay men. Who is next those who are not virgins, those who were divorced, those who are rich (there are 3-4 times as many verses about rich sin). Does he discriminate against those who do not observe the sabbath? How about those who are not Christian and of his beliefs? If you are in business and open to the general public, you have a duty to serve the general public. Do fire fighters have the right to not protect your home because you are a sinner by their beliefs? Does the first aid responder or doctor have the right to turn you down? You see the stupidity in this. This is only gasoline on the fire to put down Christianity and religion in general. If you are going to be in a public service sector. You need to serve the public. If you want to service just certain people it should not be public it should be a private club. This is stupid and the court has no sense in what they allowed. When people exclude others, making them second class citizens they are not Christian they are thugs and bullies. To discriminate by cherry picking your Bible is not following the religion it has no principle.
2018-06-05 18:04:42 UTC
Wow. For a guy against gays, he sure seems to be flamboyant about the whole cake process.



It’s just a forking cake after all.
Caesar
2018-06-05 18:00:17 UTC
First of all, can anyone mention me anything about scripture that mention any wedding cake in the Bible? Will he refuse to make cakes to Divorced couples based on Matthew 5:31-32 31 “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery Or he not care about what Jesus say about that sin... but care about other sins for personal issues and discrimination ...nothing about religious freedom or free speech?
2018-06-05 17:58:25 UTC
I can.



Thomas is a complete Supreme Court failure and an Uncle Tom hypocrite and Gorsuch had NO intention of over turning a prior Supreme Court's decision that granted the Equal Protection Clause to gays.



In any case, why would you care? Gays do nothing to to interfere with peoples' lives and neither God nor Jesus ever even mentioned homosexuality in the Bible. So what's your problem?



Are you just a busy body control freak?

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Seven thumbs down? LOL! Looks like a sock puppet attack to me.
2018-06-05 17:56:27 UTC
I am just glad it was just a decision on that case and the Supreme Courts did not make an overall decision and written into the Constitution. Gays need to wait to take it to the Supreme Court until they get some more Liberal justices. Some of the Conservative justices are getting old and will not be around much longer.
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2018-06-05 17:43:54 UTC
people have the right to choose to do business with anyone, but does it really matter to deny services to anyone? Jesus said bless your enemies and do good. but paul said what does light have to do with fellowship of darkness. even though Jesus ate and drank with sinners.


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